Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-12 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form. olafur doesn't want to do_ANY, under any conditions. so i'm baffled by why you're offering this alternative? Neither djb nor Olafur are automatically the consensus of this WG.

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-12 Thread Brian Dickson
tl;dr: I am thinking of the principle of least surprise, for the use case of interactive dig users. Here's why: Asking ANY to a recursive resolver, the expected behavior is whatever is in the cache (which could be a subset of the real RRsets, and possibly empty even though RRs exist on

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-11 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 07:12:55AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form. olafur doesn't want to do_ANY, under any conditions. so i'm baffled by why you're offering this alternative?

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-11 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 08:13:04PM -0700, Brian Dickson wrote: Okay, thinking about this a bit more... Recursive vs authoritative, RD=0 vs RD=1. In all combinations of the above, do the new thing, except for one corner case: if(RD==1 I_AM_AUTHORITY) then do_ANY (Which happens to be

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Vixie
Brian Dickson mailto:brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:13 AM On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com mailto:brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, everyone, [snip] dig-friendly. Okay, thinking about this a bit

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20150311162220.ga18...@puck.nether.net, Jared Mauch writes: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 07:12:55AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form. olafur doesn't want to do_ANY, under

[DNSOP] Another suggestion for any

2015-03-10 Thread Brian Dickson
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, everyone, [snip] dig-friendly. Okay, thinking about this a bit more... Recursive vs authoritative, RD=0 vs RD=1. In all combinations of the above, do the new thing, except for one corner case: if(RD==1