Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Nov 2018, at 5:07 am, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > > Tony Finch wrote: >> ... >> >> And even if you can get the recursive server addresses, you should still >> go through the name service switch to deal with names that aren't in the >> DNS. > > agreed. For A and , but not for HTTP,

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-07 Thread Tim Wicinski
Mr Paul is correct - getdns is the best path for developers. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 1:07 AM Paul Vixie wrote: > > > Tony Finch wrote: > > ... > > > > And even if you can get the recursive server addresses, you should still > > go through the name service switch to deal with names that aren't in

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Vixie
Tony Finch wrote: ... And even if you can get the recursive server addresses, you should still go through the name service switch to deal with names that aren't in the DNS. agreed. The custom DNS stub resolvers that I know about (adns, ldns, libevent) reimplement the libc resolver, with

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-07 Thread Tony Finch
Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 11/7/18 4:00 PM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > Can you point to a major browser that does *not* implement its own > > resolver already? > > I believe Firefox on Linux uses libc call (in my basically default > setup). There's a problem on Unix that there isn't a way to

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Mevzek
On 2018-11-05 06:10 -0500, Vladimír Čunát wrote: On 11/2/18 10:41 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: Speaking as a co-author of ANAME, I agree about this. URI, SRV, a proposed new HTTP RRtype, whatever - service lookup is absolutely the correct way to accomplish this goal. However, browser vendors are

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-07 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 06:11, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 11/2/18 10:41 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: > > Speaking as a co-author of ANAME, I agree about this. URI, SRV, a > proposed > > new HTTP RRtype, whatever - service lookup is absolutely the correct way > to > > accomplish this goal. > > > > However,

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-05 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 11/2/18 10:41 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: > Speaking as a co-author of ANAME, I agree about this. URI, SRV, a proposed > new HTTP RRtype, whatever - service lookup is absolutely the correct way to > accomplish this goal. > > However, browser vendors are *not doing that*, and I've given up hope that >

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-02 Thread Joel Jaeggli
> On Nov 2, 2018, at 17:57, Dan York wrote: > > Are there any other publishers of websites on this list who use CDNs in front > of their sites - and who are interested in the whole “CNAME at apex” issue? > > Given the ANAME discussions and other continuing “CNAME at apex” discussions, > I

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-02 Thread Evan Hunt
On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 10:16:25PM +0100, Måns Nilsson wrote: > At the risk of sounding like a repetitive bore, what is actually needed > is a way to say "for that domain name, apex or not, https[1] services are > over there >". Without messing up the entire node in the tree and > causing

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-02 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list? Date: Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 01:11:08PM +0100 Quoting Måns Nilsson (mansa...@besserwisser.org): > Subject: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list? Date: Fri, > Nov 02, 2018 at 10:57:33AM + Quoting Da

Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-02 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list? Date: Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 10:57:33AM + Quoting Dan York (y...@isoc.org): > DNSOP subscribers, > > Are there any other publishers of websites on this list who use CDNs in front > of their sites - and who ar

[DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

2018-11-02 Thread Dan York
DNSOP subscribers, Are there any other publishers of websites on this list who use CDNs in front of their sites - and who are interested in the whole “CNAME at apex” issue? Given the ANAME discussions and other continuing “CNAME at apex” discussions, I started putting together a short draft