Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-08-20 Thread Yuri Schaeffer
On 08/20/2012 01:50 PM, John Dickinson wrote: > We could rearrange the table to tidy up the description of the > Double-Signature method but keep the existing names. Would that > help? Yes, making a clearer distinction between ZSK Double-Signature and KSK Double-Signature would help a bit. //yu

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Koch
John, all, On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:50:55PM +0100, John Dickinson wrote: > > Saying this does not count as a 'standby key' is confusing in the > > light that the term key is used rather loosely. Also this text > > insinuates that it is somehow worse than having a "Double-Signature > > standby k

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-08-20 Thread John Dickinson
Yuri, Thanks for the feedback. On 14 Aug 2012, at 09:54, Yuri Schaeffer wrote: > I reviewed the "DNSSEC Key Timing Considerations > draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt" document rather extensively > with emphasis on verifying correctness of the rollover timelines. I > believe these are co

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-08-14 Thread Yuri Schaeffer
I reviewed the "DNSSEC Key Timing Considerations draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt" document rather extensively with emphasis on verifying correctness of the rollover timelines. I believe these are correct. A remark: 4. Standby Keys, paragraph 6: "Finally, in the Double-DS method of rolli

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-08-01 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
On 24/07/2012 07:53, Matthijs Mekking wrote: General comment: this is an improvement. some comments and suggestions below The "state" of the key frequently depends on the viewpoint, for example zone may have key in active state but due to propagation delay some validators may think the key is P

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-25 Thread Miek Gieben
[ Quoting in "Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-..." ] > > While dnsop-dnssec-key-timing provides a fairly thorough > > background which promotes understanding of the underlying issues, > > it's still a thorny document to apply to an actual operational > > event. > > > > I think it would be grea

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-25 Thread Matthijs Mekking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/2012 05:11 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 2012-07-24, at 07:53, Matthijs Mekking wrote: > >> As you might know, I had this idea of unraveling key states. >> Instead of having states that describe the overall state of the >> key, we would have

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-25 Thread Matthijs Mekking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Matthijs Mekking wrote: > >> But both descriptions may be valid at the same point in time. So >> I would like to say the key can be Published and Active at the >> same time. > >> 2. A

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-24 Thread Joe Abley
On 2012-07-24, at 07:53, Matthijs Mekking wrote: > As you might know, I had this idea of unraveling key states. Instead > of having states that describe the overall state of the key, we would > have states for components of the key. How to divide the key into > components is based on the parts th

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Matthijs Mekking wrote: But both descriptions may be valid at the same point in time. So I would like to say the key can be Published and Active at the same time. 2. A key can have more than one state at a time. I would not be in favour or using "states" where there is

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-24 Thread Matthijs Mekking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Stephen asked me to send this suggestion we had (surfaced from discussions) to the list. We would like to have input before the upcoming IETF meeting. Modification to the key states == As you might know, I had this id

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-09 Thread Stephen Morris
After much delay, the -03 version of the key timing draft has been submitted. It incorporates a number of comments made on-list and privately: many thanks to Mark Lampo, Matthijs Mekking and Alfred Hoenes. Perhaps the most significant change concerns the timing considerations related to the intro

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-03.txt

2012-07-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : DNSSEC Key Timing Considerations Author(s) : Stephen Morris