Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread bmanning
one might actually extrapolate here (and maybe look back a couple decades) ... there used to be many different transports around - and about the timethe DNS "gel'ed", most had become vestigal. We are now in the evoultionary "fork in the road" when we have an emergent, new transport that demands

Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > I agree with your point about the haggling Ted. I'm not so sure we > agree on the definition of a wrong answer. I think Ed's point about caching behavior proves you to be correct. ___ DNSOP mailing list DN

Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread Jim Reid
On 1 Apr 2010, at 16:18, Ted Lemon wrote: On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Jim Reid wrote: Why don't yahoo approach the problem the same way google has done for IPv6 to www.google.com? They only hand out records for this name to ISPs who can demonstrate they have solid IPv6 connectivity. This

Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread Andras Salamon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 08:18:43AM -0700, Ted Lemon wrote: I think a principled position can be taken that giving out wrong answers should not be done, but once you've decided that you're willing to give out wrong answers, we're really just haggling over the price. Would "RA=0, NODATA" as a res

Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > Why don't yahoo approach the problem the same way google has done for > IPv6 to www.google.com? They only hand out records for this name > to ISPs who can demonstrate they have solid IPv6 connectivity. This is > ugly and distasteful. But it d

Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread Jason Livingood
> The bottom line is, that if a given provider's users send in too many > complaints about connectivity problems, the business folks will push for > dewhitelisting. That's bad for both the content and access provider sides > for a variety of reasons. Or, you could just refer them back to their I

Re: [DNSOP] Misguided IPv4-IPv6 DNS trickery

2010-04-01 Thread Jason Fesler
On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > > This is a valid concern. It does not and should not need to be > addressed (excuse the pun) by making authoritatiev servers do stupid/ > wrong/bad things. Actually, that dns hack is for resolvers. That's the only place the end client talks to