Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-26 Thread Yann Dirson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:36:16AM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: But now that we are at it, do you know if there are any other good free (GPL, BSD, whatever) tools for authoring and rendering MathML besides Amaya, PassiveTeX and a few other? Not really. However, Amaya uses ThotLib

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) displays (some) MathML, is free (like in free beer), but not suited for general consumption. Er, sorry to disturb this thread, but this is at least partly wrong. Amaya is free like in free speech as well as like in free beer, and this is probably the most

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Ring
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:38 AM To: Phillip Shelton Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) displays (some) MathML, is free (like in free beer), but not suited for general consumption. Er, sorry to disturb this thread

Re: FW: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Jirka Kosek
Phillip Shelton wrote: Any hope that DocBook would support MathML native? There is MathML customization for DocBook (see www.oasis-open.org/docbook/). With it you can use MathML inside of equation and inlineequation. However typing MathML without any supporting tools is very sluggish.

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | frustration/ I then go and make a text file with the PCDATA I want to | see, and use the imagedata format=linespecific and import a non-graphic | anyway. Much less hassle for me if I could just use PCDATA in an | informalequation. Yeah,

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- You're not supposed to put generated files under revision control; just the source and the script (or whatever) that generates the files. Um, I wasn't. Each equation at present needs its own source. Each source is only 16-140 char's long. Here are my first two

FW: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Phillip Shelton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 1:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Mark Wroth
At Norms' request, I entered an RFE to make text equations possible, something that, oddly enough had never occurred to me, despite being frustrated over this issue for several years now. At 01.10.22 10:49 +1000, Phillip Shelton wrote: -Original Message- / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
, October 19, 2001 3:25 PM To: Roman Suzi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part of the core, not an extension. I seem to be a minority opinion

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. With respect to equations: 1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because there's no markup for the equation content in DocBook.

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. With respect to equations: 1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because there's no markup for the equation content in DocBook. It could be argued that some

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread M. Wroth
At 07:23 AM 10/19/01 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. With respect to equations: 1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because there's no markup for the equation content

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Norman Walsh
/ M. Wroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | While I'd rather see some form of math markup become part of the | DocBook core, allowing such equations as can be expressed in text | would be useful to me. (Since you asked :-) File an RFE please, http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread M. Wroth
I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part of the core, not an extension. I seem to be a minority opinion, though :-) At 05:17 PM 10/19/01 +0400, Roman Suzi wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, M. Wroth wrote: With

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Roman Suzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | There is MathML for that. probably it could be somehow | integrated with DocBook? Already done, http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/mathml/ Be seeing you, norm

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Peter Ring
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part of the core, not an extension. I seem to be a minority opinion, though :-) At 05:17 PM 10/19/01 +0400, Roman Suzi wrote

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread M. Wroth
With regard to my comments on including math markup in the core DocBook At 03:55 PM 10/19/01 +0200, Peter Ring wrote: Could you be more specific? Which math notations should be part of the core? What processing should be expected? MathML would be fine, based on my limited experience with it.

FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-18 Thread Phillip Shelton
I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. quote A TextObject is a wrapper containing a textual description of a media object, and its associated meta-information. TextObjects are only allowed in MediaObjects as a fall-back option, they cannot be the primary content. /quote Or why the