Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems with table layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Giuseppe Greco
Matt, I'm using OpenJade 1.3 and dsssl stylesheets 1.74b... I know that DSSSL is pretty dead, but OpenJade is the only tool that allows me to generate HTML as well as postscript. Of course, it would be better to have XML catalogs and use XSL stylesheets, but until now I haven't found a tool

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems with table layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Ian Castle
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 07:13, Matt G. wrote: rant Unfortunately, the OpenJade maintainers seem to be completely neglecting it. Tsk. openjade 1.3.1 will be released shortly. I don't care about new features, but one might expect they'd at least do a maintenance release including

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features / Versions,complete Docbook distribution

2002-01-14 Thread Bob Stayton
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:57:44PM +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote: This complete framework is SO complex to setup, I have never seen something like this before, especially when there is no documentation that explains the necessary steps in one document. currently I feel like playing a

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Fop?

2002-01-14 Thread Bob Stayton
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 06:01:10PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Having now taken a file from XML -- HTML via xsltproc from XML -- .fo via xsltproc from .fo -- .fop via xsltproc and downloaded the fop.sh I try to run fop.sh from the command line (CYGWIN), and am told: [: Doc:

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread Tim Waugh
--gV1yUYniiDLxW66s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:11:01PM -0800, Carlos Araya wrote: A couple days ago I asked about an RPM for Passivetex and even then I'm having a hell of time trying to find if I have the correct versions

Re: DocBook Tools' Complexity (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook withAbiWord?)

2002-01-14 Thread Yann Dirson
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 06:46:28AM +, Matt G. wrote: I guess it would be helpful if there was an application for XML/Docbook where you'd have all the allowed tags offered to you, either in a menu or in an XML comment tag or something like that. That's what I mean by a good, DTD-aware

OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems withtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Matt G.
rant Unfortunately, the OpenJade maintainers seem to be completely neglecting it. Tsk. openjade 1.3.1 will be released shortly. My apologies. I saw no signs of recent activity, at the sourceforge site. Furthermore, the most recent release, 1.3, had been out for over 2 years, despite

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Abbreviated DocBook (notice about doxygen )

2002-01-14 Thread Prikryl,Petr
(This is related to doxygen and to its possible future output into DocBook XML. The message appeared in [EMAIL PROTECTED], but now it seems to be more related to doxygen than to DocBook. Please, join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to participate on doxygen development, and to follow this

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread rpjday
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Carlos Araya wrote: And you talk about the tools, well that's another bottleneck. The tools assume a technical level that most beginers don't have (even if they've worked installing software before.) A couple days ago I asked about an RPM for Passivetex and even then I'm

DOCBOOK-APPS: HTML stylesheets and product{number,name}

2002-01-14 Thread Rune Enggaard Jensen
In the HTML stylesheets ver. 1.48 the templates for productnumber and productname in mode 'titlepage.mode' both unconditionally output a br/ element. This doesn't look right for me, but I - being a European - might be unaware of some american conventions. Is it a bug? If so, I will submit at

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Abbreviated DocBook

2002-01-14 Thread Jorge Godoy
Matt G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use an XSLT script to output the PCDATA of all the elements I care to spell check, then feed this through ispell. The problem with this approach is that I have to manually integrate the corrected spellings back into the source document. It would be nice

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: docbook-xml

2002-01-14 Thread E.L. Willighagen
Michael Charles Smith wrote: I'm very new to docbook, and I'm trying to get it set up. Right now we have the xml version of the dtd, and I was trying to use jade to process it. When I ran nsgmls -sv test.doc(the command it gives to test your setup of docbook in TDG, I got a whole bunch

Re: OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems withtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Josef Karthauser
--98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 10:01:10AM +, Matt G. wrote: rant Unfortunately, the OpenJade maintainers seem to be completely neglecting it. Tsk. openjade 1.3.1 will be released shortly. What

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: docbook-xml

2002-01-14 Thread Rune Enggaard Jensen
Michael Charles Smith wrote: I'm very new to docbook, and I'm trying to get it set up. Right now we have the xml version of the dtd, and I was trying to use jade to process it. When I ran nsgmls -sv test.doc(the command it gives to test your setup of docbook in TDG, I got a whole bunch of

DOCBOOK-APPS: Suggestion for how to mark up references to notes.

2002-01-14 Thread Josef Karthauser
--V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm working on a publication using docbook. We have a lot of additional notes that I'd like to reference from within the book, but am unsure as to what the best way to mark them up is. Here's a fragment

Re: OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problemswithtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread E.L. Willighagen
Josef Karthauser wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 10:01:10AM +, Matt G. wrote: rant Unfortunately, the OpenJade maintainers seem to be completely neglecting it. Tsk. openjade 1.3.1 will be released shortly. What does openjade offer over jade? I tried to answer this

DOCBOOK-APPS: Problems with l10n...

2002-01-14 Thread Andrea Giuliano
First of all, I beg you pardon if this turns out to be a very trivial question. This is what I'm working with: - Xalan Version 1.2.2, XML4J Version Xerces 1.2.2 - DocBook XSL stylesheet version = 1.41 My DocBook documents can be transformed without problem with version 1.41 of the stylesheets,

Re: OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems withtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Josef Karthauser
--sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:04:17AM -0800, Carlos Araya wrote: Openjade is still being maintained and improved. I don't think J Clark is maintaining Jade anymore. If there's any evolution in the Jade

Re: OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems withtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Yann Dirson
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 03:35:24PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'm using jade at the moment, but wondering whether it's worth moving to openjade. What I'd really like to get working is texual flow about figures and sidebars. That doesn't appear to work in jade. I don't think this is

Re: OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems withtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 04:42:02PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 03:35:24PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'm using jade at the moment, but wondering whether it's worth moving to openjade. What I'd really like to get working is texual flow about figures and sidebars.

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features / Versions,complete Docbook distribution

2002-01-14 Thread Alexander Schatten
Bob Stayton wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:57:44PM +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote: This complete framework is SO complex to setup, I have never seen something like this before, especially when there is no documentation that explains the necessary steps in one document. currently I feel

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: docbook-xml

2002-01-14 Thread Juan R. Migoya
i.e: put the xml.dcl before your xml file when running nsgml or jade. Juan R. Migoya SPAIN E.L. Willighagen wrote: Michael Charles Smith wrote: I'm very new to docbook, and I'm trying to get it set up. Right now we have the xml version of the dtd, and I was trying to use jade to

DOCBOOK-APPS: Porblems with l10n...

2002-01-14 Thread Andrea Giuliano
First of all, I beg you pardon if this turns out to be a very trivial question. This is what I'm working with: - Xalan Version 1.2.2, XML4J Version Xerces 1.2.2 - DocBook XSL stylesheet version = 1.41 My DocBook documents can be transformed without problem with version 1.41 of the

Re: OpenJade 1.3.1 (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Print backend: problems withtable layouts

2002-01-14 Thread Ian Castle
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 15:35, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:04:17AM -0800, Carlos Araya wrote: Openjade is still being maintained and improved. I don't think J Clark is maintaining Jade anymore. If there's any evolution in the Jade software family it'll be in Openjade

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features / Versions,complete Docbook distribution

2002-01-14 Thread Carlos
On 01/14/02 8:02, Alexander Schatten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, I do understand this. however: unfortunately it seems to me the same like in other (open source) projects: microsoft was once blamed for their setup program: only dummies would use this, bla bla. now even linux software

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: xsl-fo, 1.48 stylesheets

2002-01-14 Thread Dave Pawson
At 23:49 13/01/2002 -0800, Bob Stayton wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 06:02:41AM +, Dave Pawson wrote: In the output I see fo:block space-before.minimum=0.8em space-before.optimum=1em space-before.maximum=1.2em font-family=Courier font-size=9pt wrap-option=no-wrap text-align=start

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: XSL Hacking problems

2002-01-14 Thread Julien Letessier
(This was about letting URLs hyphenate in DocBook FO output (e.g. PDF with Fop). Should work anywhere.) le 13/01/02 18:57, David Cramer écrivit: Julien, If you figure out the first one, let me know. The thread http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XSL-FO/messagesearch?query=forcing%20line% 20breaks

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features / Versions,complete Docbook distribution

2002-01-14 Thread Alexander Schatten
Julien Letessier wrote: le 14/01/02 17:02, Alexander Schatten écrivit: the same here and in other similar projects: what I feel angry about is, that many of these projects suffer on two things: -- setup and installation -- documentation (snip) It's in the works... I've created a

DOCBOOK-APPS: Preface page numbers problem revisited.

2002-01-14 Thread Sasha Zucker
first, the usual information: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE OpenJade 1.3 DocBook XML 4.1.2 nwalsh docbook-dsssl-1.71 $ jadetex -v -- Here's what version of jadetex I'm using TeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159 kpathsea version 3.3.1 I am having what appears to be a common problem. I am trying to generate a PDF

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread ttg
Matt, If you want the benefits of DocBook with as little hassle as possible, then get a good, DTD-aware XML editor. My suggestion is then to download the HTML copy of _DocBook: The Definitive Guide_ (get it from docbook.org), and keep it open in a browser. In my opinion, working that way is

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Preface page numbers problem revisited.

2002-01-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Sasha Zucker writes: I am having what appears to be a common problem. I am trying to generate a PDF version of a book with a preface and I am not getting roman numerals. Worse yet, the page numbering restarts at one in chapter two, so I am getting three page 1s in the book (title page,

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features / Versions,complete Docbook distribution

2002-01-14 Thread Markus Hoenicka
Did you have a look at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html This little document guides you through the setup of an SGML and XML editing and processing system. DocBook (both SGML and XML) is used as the main DTD example. The instructions include Emacs, PSGML,

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features / Versions,complete Docbook distribution

2002-01-14 Thread Dave Pawson
At 21:11 14/01/2002 +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote: the meaning is this: off course: provide current updates off all subprojects for the specialists. but PLEASE provide ONE solution, that does is all for the normal user. this one must not be updated that often and also needs not to support

DOCBOOK-APPS: editing XML with vi clones (Re: Abbreviated DocBook)

2002-01-14 Thread Matt G.
From: Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Abbreviated DocBook Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:39:56 -0200 especially since I write all my XML with vi, however I'm convinced it's worth the effort. Oh... That's why you suffer a little. Not starting a war, but Emacs has a lot of