Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread ttg
Matt, >If you want the benefits of DocBook with as little hassle as possible, then >get a good, DTD-aware XML editor. My suggestion is then to download the >HTML copy of _DocBook: The Definitive Guide_ (get it from docbook.org), and >keep it open in a browser. In my opinion, working that way

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread Dave Pawson
At 05:43 14/01/2002 -0500, rpjday wrote: >On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Carlos Araya wrote: > > > And you talk about the tools, well that's another bottleneck. The tools > > assume a technical level that most beginers don't have (even if they've > > worked installing software before.) A couple days ago I a

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread rpjday
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Carlos Araya wrote: > And you talk about the tools, well that's another bottleneck. The tools > assume a technical level that most beginers don't have (even if they've > worked installing software before.) A couple days ago I asked about an RPM > for Passivetex and even then

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-14 Thread Tim Waugh
--gV1yUYniiDLxW66s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:11:01PM -0800, Carlos Araya wrote: > A couple days ago I asked about an RPM for Passivetex and even then > I'm having a hell of time trying to find if I have the correct > versio

DocBook Tools' Complexity (Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?)

2002-01-13 Thread Matt G.
>I guess it would be helpful if there was an application for >XML/Docbook where you'd have all the allowed tags offered to you, >either in a menu or in an XML comment tag or something like that. That's what I mean by "a good, DTD-aware editor". They have lots of neat features, many of which are

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-13 Thread Carlos Araya
> DocBook is so thoroughly documented, in the reference section of TDG, that > 99% of the time, it concisely provides *exactly* what you need to know. I > claim that, working that way, a newbie can be 90% up the learning curve, in > an afternoon, so long as you already have all your tools setup

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-13 Thread Matt G.
>From: Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DocBook with AbiWord? >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:59:06 +0800 > >>writing my articles. But it's not apparent how I could get full >>use of docbook from AbiWord. I asked about this on the >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list,

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-10 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:20:04PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote: > > At can be ameliorated by technology, though. If you had a sufficiently > configurable structured editor, you could make a fairly intuitive > DocBook editor out of it by configuring it to "do the right DocBook > thing" everywhere a

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-10 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Daniel Veillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | Very few could actually accept the rigidity due to the document structure | and associated constraints. The problem is not technical, but nearly social At can be ameliorated by technology, though. If you had a sufficiently configurable s

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-10 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:37:37PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote: > / Elliotte Rusty Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > | I do not know what ABIWord does, but I don't think this as > | fundamentally impossible as you claim. All that's needed is a standard > | word processor interface, exce

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook with AbiWord?

2002-01-10 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Elliotte Rusty Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | I do not know what ABIWord does, but I don't think this as | fundamentally impossible as you claim. All that's needed is a standard | word processor interface, except that instead of menu items like | italic we have menu items like e