Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Terminology: selecting is not enough!

2011-02-16 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:59 -0800, JDługosz wrote: I noticed in the chapters I'm working on that often various things, such as all the items on the various pages of the Options dialog, it refers to selecting an option. In one place it was more noticeable in the user was directed to select

[libreoffice-documentation] BrOffice org in trouble?

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
From someone in BrOffice org i got this email ... Tom could you be kind enough to post the following to the documentation list ? - If I get further into this discussion don't worry, I'll re-join myself. - To the Documentation Team / TDF: We the Brazilian members of the TDF community are

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] BrOffice org in trouble?

2011-02-16 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) There's absolutely no reason why they can't use Alfresco. Speaking personally, I'll give all the help and cooperation I can, which obviously includes setting up a working space for them. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Terminology: selecting is not enough!

2011-02-16 Thread JDługosz
Documentation and training material for USERS of GUIs specify it like that. The distinction might be more noticeable if you are not using the mouse. Like I said, in some contexts it is clear, and in other phrasing it is wrong. I'd rather be consistent and avoid the problem. -- View this message

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Terminology: selecting is not enough!

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I can totally agree with both points of view. I think select and de-select are probably easier to understand for more users although it is good to know why i felt uncomfortable about it! Enabled as the opposite of disabled is more uncomfortable politically since people in wheelchairs

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Terminology: selecting is not enough!

2011-02-16 Thread Barbara Duprey
I have another problem with the enabled/disabled terminology -- I think it can easily be misunderstood as modifiable/unmodifiable (available/grayed out). This terminology is not in common use and I think it would be more confusing than helpful. Often click would be a reasonable substitute, but

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Terminology: selecting is not enough!

2011-02-16 Thread Barbara Duprey
That's OK, too, for checkbox (tickbox?) items, and maybe radio buttons. I think our terminology list needs to be updated and reviewed for the preferred way/ways to express this for the different UI items. I doubt there's a one-size-fits-all solution, though for me select comes closest. I'll put