Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides

The changes look about right, with the exception of the comment line's missing 's' as the eightieth character, but the template styles need more work. 1a) Code End paragraph style is not required and should be removed (approved https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg0039

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides

Can you work with the text below? 1. Paste it into the document as unformatted text (to ensure there are four characters before 2nd and 3rd lines). 2. Follow: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highl

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides

The following is extra explanation of some of the comments about the code style. 1. While computer code works on lines, word processors work on paragraphs, so code lines are entered as paragraphs in the guides. Code lines often extend past the width of the display device and are wrapped to the nex

Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated LO Chapter Template for user guides

I've added a couple of comments about code styling as previously discussed in https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00445.html They are small changes but I think they would improve useability and consistency. I'd like to discuss them. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail

[libreoffice-documentation] Numbered Lists

https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/WG7.3/WG73-WriterGuide.pdf#page=269 > In technical manuals, multiple levels used to be common in headings (for instance, I.A.2 or 1.1.1). This style has largely fallen out of practice except in a few specialized cases such as le

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 is published

There are missing pdf bookmarks for headings, eg Ch2 SQLite Databases -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiq

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Process for creating printed books at Lulu

Throwing another one into the mix. A5 is also a popular size and printer drivers normally have an option to print A4 at 2 per page resulting in A5 (148mm x 210mm - 70.7%). It's often a convenient size to halve the number of printed pages from a desktop printer for a booklet or chapter. Anything d

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

BG7305-Queries_SF_FW_SF_VG_FW_27May2022.odt is ready to process comments following 2nd Review. There are suggestions to flattening headings. Two general comments for the next version: * most functionality for creating queries can be done in either Design View or SQL View but the guide presents it

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

Olivier, Steve, Vikram, Pulkit My understanding is: * https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00353.html - Vikram commented on BG7305-Queries_SF_FW_SF_VG_10Apr2022.odt but it was not the 2nd Review. I worked through everything carefully when I did the 1st Review and I wo

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Seeking User Test of LO Base install for SQLite in Windows

Regarding the user testing comments "please add info on how to set up DSN", and never using the example DNS filename. I expect the MySQL or MariaDB database server used as a template has good ODBC documentation. Unfortunately, the SQLite driver documentation does not document DNS for Windows and c

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Seeking User Test of LO Base install for SQLite in Windows

Regarding the user testing comment "there's too much text about how to create an empty [SQLite] file" (BG7302-CreatingADatabase). It is also noted the Windows File Explorer instruction does not work with the default configuration of View unselected File name extensions, and the SQLite username and

[libreoffice-documentation] Seeking User Test of LO Base install for SQLite in Windows

Thanks to the following community member kindly agreeing to me sending this email to the mailing list. -- Forwarded message - From: Maxim Mazurok Date: Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Seeking User Test of LO Base install for SQLite in Windows To: flywire Hello! Took

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

Tweaking the template can resolve almost all code colorization presentation issues as explained below. (Process issues can be worked on separately.) Key findings: * Process is a bit of a black art * LibreOffice_7.x_Template.ott has no Character Styles for colored computer code * Code Colorizer For

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

Requesting again someone other than Steve or myself (ideally a typical uninformed user) to test the SQLite install on a clean Windows system (ie without an ODBC driver installed or any ODBC Data Source Names configured). There are no instructions given in the linked Windows driver documentation to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum

I'm looking forward to Discourse replacing the mailing list. Suggested features: 1. All email notifications turned off except any threads subscribed to 2. Optional thread subscriptions: I post to, mentioning my username, containing selected tags (eg base documentation) 3. Default Engl

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cleaning the GS Guide 73 files

Be careful how the script determines unchanged images. It may be difficult to see changes to figures and there is no tracking of changes to documents after comments are assessed. For example, changes in Chapter 8 Figure 12 documented in this mailing list ( https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS72/GS7

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter - BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder. The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and includes the SQLite database.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Adding Toolbars

Peter, can you clarify which tools you are after? I note Writer > View > Toolbars > Text Object is the same toolbar as Draw > View > Toolbars > Text Formatting. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lis

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re Work Files for LibreOffice.zip

Sharon, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Tutorial under Required Files links https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/4/42/WorkFilesForLibreOffice64.zip . The documentation mailing list is not user support. Use the forum: https://ask.libreoffice.org/c/e

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

I've updated the Base Guide Macro chapter BG7309, with the following changes: - resolved outstanding ScriptForge Demo python coding issues and accompanying text - reran syntax highlighting code - updated to LibreOffice_7.x_Template I couldn't resolve these template issues which need to be fixed: -

Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: BG7309 Macros - ScriptForge Proposal

Through testing, I've realised: 1. V7 Base Guide doesn't use the template, or even the same style names, causing most of the code formatting inconsistencies. Thanks to Dave Barton for pointing out the "Code" style in the 7.2x template. I've updated the wiki to link to the resources fol

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code

Can you comment in terms of experience formatting code in the guide? I previously commented code colorization should be part of the style running any macro behind the scenes. It isn't (ie changing the template does nothing). If you look through the guides you'll see a lot of inconsistency from rand

[libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code

Can someone confirm the process in: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code Issues: * macro should just set colors without altering style * red and green as the predominant colors is a poor choice fo

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for version 7.3 Question

I worked through that section when I reviewed it and missed that. The option in point 4 is wrong, use: 3) Right-click anywhere in the Tables pane, and select Paste. The Copy table dialog opens. 4) Change the Table name to CD-Jazz, check Options As table view is selected then click Next. 5) Click th

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Leading spaces lost copying code from pdf

> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/docu

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Leading spaces lost copying code from pdf

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148025 is marked as a duplicate but it needs confirming and changing to related because nearly all of the assertions in #66181 are wrong, and the bugs have a different emphasis. From https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148025#c3 >

[libreoffice-documentation] Leading spaces lost copying code from pdf

My recommendation is to tweak the pdf format to actually write blank lines and consider left-aligned code listing. This would at least allow https://pdf-xchange.eu/ to be used as a free viewer on windows, and probably any pdf editor, to support copy/paste pdf code with layout. BTW, note https://do

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: BG7309 Macros - ScriptForge Proposal

Olivier Hallot confirmed those macros were used to color the code. I suppose it is https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/71 1. The template should check the macros (extension) are loaded 2. Instead of the macro being a manual process can it be integrated into the code styl

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: BG7309 Macros - ScriptForge Proposal

Updated to BG7309-Macros_SF_OH_FW_24Jan2022_16Mar2022.odt which incorporates a few SourceForge demo updates. Existing drafts moved to archive. Please advise if not correctly logged in tracking sheet. On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:35 PM flywire wrote: > There is a major usability issue I'

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: BG7309 Macros - ScriptForge Proposal

I see between adding that draft and posting to the mailing list Olivier Hallot has included an earlier draft in the chapter he had checked out. I'll check out that chapter and update it to the latest ScriptForge draft. How can python code be formatted in colour? On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:18

[libreoffice-documentation] BG7309 Macros - ScriptForge Proposal

I've uploaded a draft ScriptForge proposal and accompanying database to NextCloud. Comments: 1. The draft needs checking (one macro example is not supported) and reformatting 2. There is a note about standard colours for code that has been applied to the basic code except for the last

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 7.3 published

Check template orphan paragraph and before/after paragraph spacing in general. There is a formatting issue with the template shown by the heading at the bottom of https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/GS7.3/GS73-GettingStarted.pdf#page=258 V V tor., 22. feb. 2022 o

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 7.3 published

ted chapter. I'd also welcome any comments if this is not considered the appropriate process. On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 7:28 AM flywire wrote <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00178.html> : > GS7308-GettingStartedWithBase_FW_20220205.odt was updated

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Introduction

The more developed functionality with more users is less likely to have problems. For example, Base is less developed with fewer users so working through https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS72/GS7208-GettingStartedWithBase.html identified a few inconsistencies with the https://books.libreoffice.org/

[libreoffice-documentation] Introduction

Welcome Vikram. I assume you worked through https://www.libreoffice.org/community/docs-team/ to the wiki finding the https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development link. I'm sure one of the coordinators will reply to guide you through an induction. Please make the most of your first

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 6:08 PM Robert Großkopf wrote: > > 1. Numbers are not aligned right by default eg > > > https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS72/GS7208-GettingStartedWithBase-img/GS7208-GettingStartedWithBase-img043.png > > You could report a bug/enhancement request for this. > Of course

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide Coordination

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:54 AM Olivier Hallot < olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > I'm taking the Base Guide 7.3 coordination. > A fairly small team has been working on this release so feel free to suggest who might do what (ie scope). There doesn't seem to be much point in the same person

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

Re Chapter 5 queries. Some interesting and unexpected things are apparent about Tables/Queries in the Getting Started Guide with Base I didn't notice in the Base Guide: 1. Numbers are not aligned right by default

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Getting Started Guide

GS7308-GettingStartedWithBase_FW_20220205.odt was updated including comments in the document that can mostly be deleted and held over to consider in another version. Changes were mainly tweeks to the Automobile.odb example database and guide to make the guide and the example database consistent. Th

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

Review of BG7306-Reports_SF_FW_03Feb2022.odt complete. There are two comments, one I can't delete (see https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/possible-bug-cant-fully-delete-comment-when-record-track-changes-is-on/50320/1). Worst case I suppose an xml edit would fix it. This document has a really poor style

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

Review of Chapter 5 complete - BG7305-Queries_SF_NI_31Jan2022.odt - Worked through demo database. - References added for remaining Figures and Table. Comments for the record and wider consideration: 1. Can't select multiple fields and apply the same action to all, eg add fields to

[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Documentation Mailing List - Sender eMail Address

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette#General_Rules state replies should be sent to poster unless they are considered of general interest. Many people seem to have the opinion ALL posts should be sent to the mailing list. Regardless, I'd prefer to receive all posts from the poster's name<

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guide for Writer

adept > at this time to offer the judgment you requested. What I can write is that > I am very favorably impressed with your fast response to my problem and > thank you for it. > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 7:29 PM flywire wrote: > >> Either link, the [first] toolbar link is a

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guide for Writer

ng for a personal letter? I have not tried either of the > two you kindly offered and shall wait for your reply. > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 4:15 PM flywire wrote: > >> The Writer Guide V7.2 describes many ways of using line spacing. The >> process described in >&g

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guide for Writer

Thank you for your feedback. The Writer Guide V7.2 describes many ways of using line spacing. The process described in https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG72/WG7204-FormattingText.html#toc12 about the toolbar works for me on Win10 with more detail given in https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG72/WG72

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base BG7302 - Chapter 2 - First Review

ne > part of our update cycle). > > Then we can look at the new text, check if it is appropriate for > inclusion and, if so, we can decide if it can be included at this issue. > > Regards, > > Steve > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 9:46 AM flywire wrote: > Proposed Ch2 sqlite sec

[libreoffice-documentation] MacOS info for all books

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:11 PM Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > I propose to discuss this and decide on a solution for all the guides and > all the writers, via the list and/or the documentation team weekly meeting. *If* macOS customisation is critical then please give more consideration to coding i

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base v7.3: Chapter 1 - BG7301

Two quick comments: 1. p4 Database Creation: New embedded HSQLDB databases can be created using the built-in database engine. (An embedded database engine doesn't imply an embedded database, needs to be contrasted with an external database.) 2. p6 add sqlite ?? Regards -- To unsu

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base BG7302 - Chapter 2 - First Review

Proposed Ch2 sqlite section uploaded. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://list

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base BG7302 - Chapter 2 - First Review

The mysql example has many options but that makes it complicated as the first external database example. I agree establishing an ODBC-connection to Base could be complicated so that was a focus of the instructions. With macOS and linux considerations it might become complicated too (I can't test it

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base BG7302 - Chapter 2 - First Review

I'd like to see sqlite added as the first example of an external database. Text from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/Base/Connect_to_SQLite (needs verification for macOS and Linux). Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Prob

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

These are comments in the vicinity of changes as I've skimmed chapters and haven't followed the examples using Base ( https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#What_to_look_for_in_an_update_or_review ). It's good to see the document tone

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide - updates to Chapters 5 and 6

General comment on template. Figures are very crowded eg BG7305-Queries_SF_12Jan2022.odt Figure 2. Readability might be improved with more whitespace before/after figures, say 0.21cm padding. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libre

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide; updated Chapter 1 (Introducing Base) ready for review

Re: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00022.html Minor update completed with tracked changes. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ P

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide; updated Chapter 1 (Introducing Base) ready for review

Thanks Martin. Of course, I'm following https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation which has a fair amount of "(update in progress)". 1. So do need to request approval from the Main Editor to join or do I just add myself to the list for the doc/version? 2. I've used Google Docs bef

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 7.3 Base Guide; updated Chapter 1 (Introducing Base) ready for review

1. What is the proper process for making general comments once someone has commenced a rewrite or review? I'm used to a spreadsheet issue report: number, issue, who, when, status. 2. The Getting Started Guide base chapter and the Base Guide should have a closer relationship. Can the

Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Getting Started Guide

I'd already reworked https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English/Getting%20Started%20Guide/7.3/Work%20in%20Progress&fileid=701926 Planning a database first point and renamed the last. Systems analysis and design in a single page aimed at all users i

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Getting Started Guide

In reply to Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/ug-jE_5q7WwrDy5mkIO2wHLX Thanks Jean. 1. https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS72/GS7208-GettingStartedWithBase.html#toc6 - needs a project purpose statement to give the questions and answers

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO 7.2 Writer Guide macOS edition

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 1:09 PM Jean Weber wrote: > ... Would the team like to have this book as part of the documentation > set? I am unlikely to update it very often, and I am unlikely to > produce a macOS edition of any other books except possibly the Getting > Started Guide - if I have time. >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

Thanks Robert. I've worked through a lot of LO documentation over the last year and I can't always remember what was where. Some more comments: 1. It seems I've failed to understand the Automobile database use case then misunderstood the Fuel table use (which I understood was like a pers

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

rd 3,15/11/2020,24.19,18.9,74350,Cash 4,24/12/2020,54.81,40.9,74953,Card On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM flywire wrote: > Flagging https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d5/Automobile.odb > for a maintenance update. iirc fuel usage table records are all > identical and need to be varied. I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

Flagging https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d5/Automobile.odb for a maintenance update. iirc fuel usage table records are all identical and need to be varied. It's used in https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/scriptforge-database-demo/69155 which is intended to be located in the wiki. I'll provi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation status update for Calc function wiki articles

> > Good point, seems the purpose of each needs a clearer definition. I'd > expect all docs go to the wiki until they are formalised and moved into the > help and/or guides as appropriate. I'm keen to see some ScriptForge demos > but they must contain macros that can scare users so the only real pl