Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-07 Thread Mark Elkins
Ralph Thanks for the comments. It is yet another example of the broad level of skills within the LUG. In this case economics. Interestingly having read your comments in detail I don't think I see any huge disagreement in our views. For instance whether or not Germany has an advantage with the

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, A related bit of news on IT in local councils. http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/8719204.Dorset_and_Hampshire_county_councils_combine_IT_services/ Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: The Broadway, Bournemouth, Tuesday 2010-12-14 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorse

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, Mark Elkins wrote: > How is it that prior to the current economic problems they were not > warning that things could badly go wrong and yet appear to be more > than keen to believe that Fred Goodwin should have known? Politicians > of all political parties have advisers so why didn't they kn

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-04 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 04/12/10 13:14, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:32:15 -, Sean Gibbins > wrote: > >> The notion of a community that co-operates and shares while striving for >> excellence must surely be alien to our self-serving leaders and captains >> of industry. > > God damn communist - w

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-04 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:32:15 -, Sean Gibbins wrote: The notion of a community that co-operates and shares while striving for excellence must surely be alien to our self-serving leaders and captains of industry. God damn communist - we needs to help our American allies in fending off t

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-04 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 04/12/10 10:36, Mark Elkins wrote: > I guess one fundamental point to make is about whether or not politicians and > senior civil servants fully understand what they mean by terms such as > 'off-the-shelf' and 'open Source'. Also do they fully understand what they > mean by 'small' and 'big'

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-04 Thread Mark Elkins
I guess one fundamental point to make is about whether or not politicians and senior civil servants fully understand what they mean by terms such as 'off-the-shelf' and 'open Source'. Also do they fully understand what they mean by 'small' and 'big' contracts or projects and when it is appropria

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-02 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:27:24 -, StarLion wrote: Actually, I would think Fedora would be better in that kind of situation. I've put up with SELinux on it a few times. It's annoying, but I'll grant it does the job well. I would hate to play devils advocate but I'd be more interested in seei

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-02 Thread StarLion
>> And about time too. I wonder just how much could be saved if >> governments, let alone businesses used FOSS more. >> That said, the negative effect on those they're paying to would hurt >> in some places, but there'll be a balance somewhere. > > GSXC is the killer. Government security rules whic

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-02 Thread DJ Lonsdale
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 18:32 +, StarLion wrote: > > And about time too. I wonder just how much could be saved if > governments, let alone businesses used FOSS more. > That said, the negative effect on those they're paying to would hurt > in some places, but there'll be a balance somewhere. GS

Re: [Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-02 Thread StarLion
> " The days of the mega IT contracts are over, we will need you to > rethink the way you approach projects, making them smaller, off the > shelf and open source where possible. "   Frances Maude, Cabinet Office > Minister. And about time too. I wonder just how much could be saved if governments,

[Dorset] Open Source in Government

2010-12-02 Thread Peter Merchant
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/supportservices/8174715/No-more-mega-IT-contracts-Government-tells-suppliers.html " The days of the mega IT contracts are over, we will need you to rethink the way you approach projects, making them smaller, off the shelf and open source where possib