Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-04-04 Thread Dan Price
On Fri 30 Mar 2007 at 06:07PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc29.tar.gz http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc29.tar.gz.sig Probably one more RC after this. Hey all-- for those interested in deploying 1.0rc29, I just wanted to report that I deployed

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-04-04 Thread Frank Cusack
On April 4, 2007 6:35:27 PM -0700 Dan Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're still working on debugging why our Kerberos setup isn't working-- Thanks to Timo we have auth_gssapi_hostname, but we're still not quite there... our Kerberos engineers are looking into it. There was a recent thread on

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-31 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:32 AM +0200 John and Catherine Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - mind share in the boardroom is not the only possible goal for a project I was thinking of installed base, not commercial users per se.

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-31 Thread Gerard
On Saturday March 31, 2007 at 08:32:40 (AM) Jeff A. Earickson wrote: My one concern about dovecot is the feeping creaturism in the code. Why does it have to be an LDA? That is what procmail is for. And designing your own mailbox format (dbox?) seems dangerous too. I would have it stick to

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-31 Thread Matthias Andree
Dean Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to agree with you on this. I'm relatively new with Dovecot and have been evaluating it for deployment in a production environment. I must say that Dovecot has the most unusual development method of a large-scale project I've seen. There have

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-31 Thread Bill Cole
At 8:32 AM -0400 3/31/07, Jeff A. Earickson wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Frank Cusack wrote: FWIW, in my experience, all 1.0 software is utter shit and should be avoided like the plague if stability is a requirement. So 0.99, 1.0, etc is all meaningless to me. 1.0 = shit is almost always true

[Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Timo Sirainen
http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc29.tar.gz http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc29.tar.gz.sig Probably one more RC after this. * Security fix: If zlib plugin was loaded, it was possible to open gzipped mbox files outside the user's mail directory. + Added

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Robert Schetterer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Sirainen schrieb: http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc29.tar.gz http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc29.tar.gz.sig Probably one more RC after this. * Security fix: If zlib plugin was loaded, it was possible to open

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:47:30PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote: HI Timo, you added the wiki in txt format to the docs dir, this again brokes my suse spec *g What annoys me more (as dovecot maintainer for pkgsrc) is that the example config file changes with (almost) every release. The

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Nicolas STRANSKY
Le 30.03.2007 18:23, Geert Hendrickx a écrit : On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:47:30PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote: HI Timo, you added the wiki in txt format to the docs dir, this again brokes my suse spec *g What annoys me more (as dovecot maintainer for pkgsrc) is that the example config

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread John Peacock
Geert Hendrickx wrote: What annoys me more (as dovecot maintainer for pkgsrc) is that the example config file changes with (almost) every release. The changes are mostly just in comments, but it makes users have to merge their configuration on every update. What part of Release Candidate

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:35:09PM -0400, John Peacock wrote: What part of Release Candidate isn't clear here... ;-) release candidate equals latest supported release in this case as well. If they were 2.0 rc's, I'd continue running the latest 1.whatever release until done. Geert

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 07:35:40PM +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote: I hate how badly the configuration file updating works everywhere (well, or at least in Debian). If the changes don't really change any existing settings and won't conflict with the modified parts of the config file, there's no

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Dean Brooks
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:05:55PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: A few new small features and lots of index/mbox fixes. I've been heavily stress testing this release, so I think it should be about perfect. :) *Features*?! In an rc?! No wonder there's no convergence. [snip] So please, no

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Frank Cusack
On March 30, 2007 4:05:55 PM -0700 Kenneth Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Friday, March 30, 2007 3:24 PM -0700 Frank Cusack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I'm still using 0.99. The RC's still look like betas and I have no idea which one (if any) is less a regression than any other.

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Frank Cusack
On March 30, 2007 7:31:15 PM -0400 Dean Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:05:55PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: A few new small features and lots of index/mbox fixes. I've been heavily stress testing this release, so I think it should be about perfect. :)

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, March 30, 2007 4:41 PM -0700 Frank Cusack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are going to have to do the exact same testing from 0.99-1.0 as you would from 0.99-1.0rc29. Caveat emptor with open source software; the responsibility is upon YOU to do your own testing. Actually, no. A

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, March 30, 2007 4:52 PM -0700 Frank Cusack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's very easy. In the dovecot world, rc means development version. Or are you too stupid and ignorant to learn how the versioning works for dovecot. (Sorry, that's directed to another dovecot thread; I'm not

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Frank Cusack
On March 30, 2007 5:04:58 PM -0700 Kenneth Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Friday, March 30, 2007 4:52 PM -0700 Frank Cusack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's very easy. In the dovecot world, rc means development version. Or are you too stupid and ignorant to learn how the versioning works

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, March 30, 2007 5:22 PM -0700 Frank Cusack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't mistake my email for any involvement with dovecot development. AFAIK, Timo is the one and only developer. That's sure to win over your board and boards worldwide. If you mean a single developer

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Dean Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have to agree with you on this. I'm relatively new with Dovecot and have been evaluating it for deployment in a production environment. I must say that Dovecot has the most unusual development method of a large-scale project I've seen. I've seen

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Kenneth Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's fine for isolated users supporting only themselves. But it won't win any mind share in the boardroom. If you want widespread deployment to get proper testing (and hence a larger user base) you need a version number that gives business people the

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2007 Mar 30 (Fri) at 20:56:43 -0700 (-0700), Kenneth Porter wrote: :--On Friday, March 30, 2007 8:26 PM -0700 Peter Hessler :[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :This sort of decision is exactly why I'm the mail admin and they are :not. They know things at the boardroom level, and they are

Re: [Dovecot] 1.0.rc29 released

2007-03-30 Thread Aria Stewart
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 16:05 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: --On Friday, March 30, 2007 3:24 PM -0700 Frank Cusack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I'm still using 0.99. The RC's still look like betas and I have no idea which one (if any) is less a regression than any other. They ARE