Am 17.05.2012 16:20, schrieb Timo Sirainen:
On 17.5.2012, at 16.46, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Cole dovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com
wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for Enterprise Level Support for
On 2012-05-17 7:02 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
Consider this saga a learning experience, but don't fret over it, and
certainly don't lose any sleep over it. It's not 'that' big a deal.
We all still adore you for this fantastic mail server you've so
graciously provided us.
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for Enterprise Level Support for Dovecot. The
address of mine which he hit is only ever used for this mailing list, so
it is clear that whatever the mechanism, this list is being harvested
for commercial
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Cole
dovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for Enterprise Level Support for Dovecot. The
address of mine which he hit is only ever used for this mailing list, so
it is clear
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Cole
dovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for Enterprise Level Support for Dovecot. The
address of mine which he hit is only
On 17.5.2012, at 16.46, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Cole dovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com
wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for Enterprise Level Support for Dovecot. The
address of mine which he hit is
Am 17.05.2012 16:20, schrieb dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Cole dovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com
wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for
On 17/05/2012 15:24, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.05.2012 16:20, schrieb dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Coledovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com
wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim
On 17.5.2012, at 17.25, Giles Coochey wrote:
And he could do with re-posting his email, as I don't appear to have it in my
archive.
The list included only .com addresses, with gmail/yahoo/etc removed. I'm sure
Tim will be happy to send you the email if you ask it from him. :)
On 2012-05-17 10:20 AM, dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
Tim is working closely with Timo, and I'm sure got Timo's permission
to send that email to list subscribers.
I subscribed to the Dovecot Users mailing list, not Whatever spam
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:56:50AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 10:20 AM, dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
Tim is working closely with Timo, and I'm sure got Timo's permission
to send that email to list subscribers.
On 17/05/2012 16:20, Dennis Guhl wrote:
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:56:50AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 10:20 AM, dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
Tim is working closely with Timo, and I'm sure got Timo's permission
to
I hear people complaining about Timos'
effort to try and make a profit out of
his idea.
Maybe these people would prefer for people
like Timo to not announce anything at all and
do this without informing anyone ?
My take on this (if anyone is interested
in my opinion) is that Timo should be
On 2012-05-17 11:20 AM, Dennis Guhl d...@dguhl.org wrote:
I did not received this mail so I can't comment on the appearance but
I would not be happy to receive any unrequested commercial offers,
irrelevant which form it comes along.
It was a simple *notification* email, letting people know the
On 17 May 2012, at 10:56, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 10:20 AM, dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
Tim is working closely with Timo, and I'm sure got Timo's permission
to send that email to list subscribers.
I subscribed to
On 17 May 2012, at 10:20, Timo Sirainen wrote:
On 17.5.2012, at 16.46, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 9:38 AM, Bill Cole
dovecot-20110...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
A spammer claiming to be 'Tim Saarela tim.saar...@dovecot.fi' is
sending out a pitch for Enterprise Level Support for
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:36:07PM +0100, Spyros Tsiolis wrote:
I hear people complaining about Timos'
effort to try and make a profit out of
his idea.
The complains are not about the intention to make profit but about the
way of costumer acquisition.
Maybe these people would prefer for
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:33:30PM +0100, Giles Coochey wrote:
[..]
[sarcasm on]
No, I think we should lock Tim Timo up and force Timo to eat
lentils while he codes his IMAP server for us. It's incredibly
astounding that he should even need to be involved in a business
where he makes money
I personally didn't mind a one-time notice from the dev's team that that are
now offering paid commercial support. What if I WANTED it? I felt like it was a
courtesy email from them to let me know that it's available.
If those emails continue unsolicited, then it may start to feel like spam to
I was surprised that directly contacting people worked at all, but since
it has I thought I'd allow it and hope it wouldn't piss off too many
people.. There won't be more than that one mail, which you're free to just
ignore.
If we get enough funding we can hire more people to work on
On 2012-05-17 11:48 AM, C. Bensend be...@bennyvision.com wrote:
However, I would prefer that it
went to the list, instead of individually to the list members.
That's the only part of this I didn't care for.
Actually, I thought it did go to the list...
Yeah, ok, now I can see a *little*
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:47:23AM -0600, Douglas Mortensen wrote:
I personally didn't mind a one-time notice from the dev's team that
that are now offering paid commercial support. What if I WANTED it?
There might be a lot of people who did not mind one offlist contact to
a list address, but
Even with good intent the message in question is clearly in violation
of CAN-SPAM and Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Sec. 17529, of which the sender was
informed of when my server was accessed. It was very clearly an
electronic mail message the primary purpose of which is the commercial
advertisement or
On 5/17/2012 9:45 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
The list included only .com addresses, with gmail/yahoo/etc removed. I'm sure
Tim will be happy to send you the email if you ask it from him. :)
But not all .com's. I didn't receive such an email. Which means you
sat down and spent some amount of
On 05/17/2012 11:56 AM, Spyros Tsiolis wrote:
But I still think that it was merely an issue of
announcing it rather than gathering data from
the list.
First, that (assuming I understand correctly) the message was
apparently sent by means other than the list suggests that a list of
On 5/17/2012 3:19 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
On 17.5.2012, at 22.56, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 5/17/2012 9:45 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
The list included only .com addresses, with gmail/yahoo/etc removed. I'm
sure Tim will be happy to send you the email if you ask it from him. :)
But not all
It wasn't sent to the list, it was direct, therefore it IS spam
On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 16:24 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, but what is exactly your problem with people offering professional
support for dovecot which is ON-TOPIC if this are not 20 mails each day?
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On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 11:42 -0400, Bill Cole wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 10:56, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2012-05-17 10:20 AM, dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote:
Tim is working closely with Timo, and I'm sure got Timo's permission
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