RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

> Actually we're one the way to get > the book back into the shop into the next few weeks. > > Peer That's great news! English version please! Michael

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:22 AM, phil wrote: > > >> On 26/06/2016 4:50 PM, Peer Heinlein wrote: >> Am 25.06.2016 um 21:52 schrieb "Jan Büren": >> >> I've been trying to obtain an English copy of the Dovecot book for months, prior to starting

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

On 26/06/2016 4:50 PM, Peer Heinlein wrote: > Am 25.06.2016 um 21:52 schrieb "Jan Büren": > > >>> I've been trying to obtain an English copy of the Dovecot book for months, >>> prior to starting this project. So far, I just can't find a copy. It's >>> too >>> bad that the author/publisher

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

Am 25.06.2016 um 21:52 schrieb "Jan Büren": >> I've been trying to obtain an English copy of the Dovecot book for months, >> prior to starting this project. So far, I just can't find a copy. It's >> too >> bad that the author/publisher won't do a second printing or, if they're >> not >>

RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

On 26/06/2016 02:39, Michael Fox wrote: The most crucial difference is that LDA is intended for delivering email to a *real* user. Aki Thanks Aki. Pardon my ignorance, but why does it matter? In other words, what is it that makes LDA better for a *real* user and LMTP better for a virtual

RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

> imho wiki is the way to go to be up2date with information, else it would > make more sense to make more informative man pages in dovecot, that will > never be outdated I agree that the wiki is useful and important. It just doesn't have any depth regarding the "why" and "how" part of the

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

On 2016-06-25 23:56, Michael Fox wrote: Peer: Is there any way to get an English copy of your book? imho wiki is the way to go to be up2date with information, else it would make more sense to make more informative man pages in dovecot, that will never be outdated that sayed i am

RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

t; > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 12:53 PM > To: dovecot@dovecot.org > Cc: Peer Heinlein <p.heinl...@heinlein-support.de> > Subject: RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP > > Hi Michael, > we´ll actually the author is reading this list as well. > Maybe he can help out

RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

Michael > > >> -Original Message- >> From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of "Jan >> Büren" >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:00 AM >> To: dovecot@dovecot.org >> Subject: Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP >> &g

RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

> The most crucial difference is that LDA is intended for delivering email > to a *real* user. > > Aki Thanks Aki. Pardon my ignorance, but why does it matter? In other words, what is it that makes LDA better for a *real* user and LMTP better for a virtual user? Thanks, Michael

RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

it to the public domain as a PDF. Very frustrating. Michael > -Original Message- > From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of "Jan > Büren" > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:00 AM > To: dovecot@dovecot.org > Subject: Re: Postfix and Dovecot

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

Hi, > But you can easily grasp the configuration details and reverse engineer > the technical german phrases ... Ah well, the link: http://www.dovecot-buch.de/buch/vorwort-timo-sirainen/ > > >> >> >> >> Thanks much, >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> > > > -- > kivitendo mit Schnelleinstieg zu

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

The most crucial difference is that LDA is intended for delivering email to a *real* user. Aki > On June 24, 2016 at 7:59 PM Jan Büren wrote: > > > Hi Michael, > > > I'd appreciate comments from experienced users of postfix with dovecot. > > Are > > you using

Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

Hi Michael, > I'd appreciate comments from experienced users of postfix with dovecot. > Are > you using Dovecot LDA or LMTP and why? I have LMTP with dovecot running on Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 16.04. LDA is the worser solution, this is best explained in chapter LTMP in Peers dovecot book, which

Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

I'm new to Dovecot and will be using it with Postfix. I'm looking for recommendations regarding the use of Dovecot's LDA or LMTP for virtual mailbox delivery. Many of the simple examples on the wiki use LDA. So I've set that up initially. But apparently an advantage of LMTP is recipient

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

(Weird: this message digest got dumped into Google's spam folder. Maybe it didn't like the string in a later post (obfuscated here) master(dot)cf, which in the context of this mailing list is a postfix configuration file, but which Gmail interpret as a website. However, that domain is a

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

On 7/30/2013 8:37 PM, Ben Morrow wrote: At 3PM -0700 on 30/07/13 you (Joseph Tam) wrote: Martin Burgraf writes: And when it's running as root there is always the danger of privilege escalation. LDA only runs when it's needed and since it uses only user rights it shoudbe more harmless. I

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

Am 29.07.2013 22:38, schrieb Martin Burgraf: Well, the background process is hogging CPU why should it do that if it is idle? and RAM while it basically does nothing. guess what takes more RAM one long-running prcoess or 5 LDA processes because you get 5 messages at the same time and

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

Martin Burgraf writes: I don't know why you would consider a background process inferior to a run-on-demand executable. Well, the background process is hogging CPU and RAM while it basically does nothing. Hogging CPU and memory is putting it strongly, as it is basically suspended while

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

At 3PM -0700 on 30/07/13 you (Joseph Tam) wrote: Martin Burgraf writes: And when it's running as root there is always the danger of privilege escalation. LDA only runs when it's needed and since it uses only user rights it shoudbe more harmless. I didn't contest the privilege

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Martin Burgraf wrote: I'm using Dovecot together with Postfix; as I understand it, there are two ways to transfer the mail from Postfix to Dovecot. 1.) by using LDA with mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-lda -f

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

On 07/26/2013 05:45 PM, Martin Burgraf wrote: Hi there, I'm using Dovecot together with Postfix; as I understand it, there are two ways to transfer the mail from Postfix to Dovecot. 1.) by using LDA with mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-lda -f $SENDER -a $RECIPIENT 2.) by

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 09:30 +0200, Jan Behrend wrote: You cannot use the LDA method if SMTP and IMAP services reside on different machines, which would be the case in larger scale mail system setups. Sorry, that is incorrect. Granted, it does mean putting dovecot on the SMTP servers as

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

Joseph Tam wrote: I don't know why you would consider a background process inferior to a run-on-demand executable. Well, the background process is hogging CPU and RAM while it basically does nothing. And when it's running as root there is always the danger of privilege escalation. LDA only

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

On 7/29/2013 2:30 AM, Jan Behrend wrote: You cannot use the LDA method if SMTP and IMAP services reside on different machines, which would be the case in larger scale mail system setups. Which brings up an interesting point. With a single LMTP daemon on the Dovecot server communicating via a

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

At 4PM -0500 on 29/07/13 you (Stan Hoeppner) wrote: On 7/29/2013 2:30 AM, Jan Behrend wrote: You cannot use the LDA method if SMTP and IMAP services reside on different machines, which would be the case in larger scale mail system setups. Which brings up an interesting point. With a

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

On 7/29/2013 6:05 PM, Ben Morrow wrote: At 4PM -0500 on 29/07/13 you (Stan Hoeppner) wrote: On 7/29/2013 2:30 AM, Jan Behrend wrote: You cannot use the LDA method if SMTP and IMAP services reside on different machines, which would be the case in larger scale mail system setups. Which

[Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

Hi there, I'm using Dovecot together with Postfix; as I understand it, there are two ways to transfer the mail from Postfix to Dovecot. 1.) by using LDA with mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-lda -f $SENDER -a $RECIPIENT 2.) by using LMTP with mailbox_transport =

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

Am 26.07.2013 17:45, schrieb Martin Burgraf: I'm using Dovecot together with Postfix; as I understand it, there are two ways to transfer the mail from Postfix to Dovecot. 1.) by using LDA with mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-lda -f $SENDER -a $RECIPIENT 2.) by using LMTP

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs. LMTP

Martin Burgraf martin...@web.de writes: According to http://wiki2.dovecot.org/LDA the recommended way is to use LMTP, since it's supposed to have a better performance. The performance gains comes mostly from avoiding the overhead of invoking an executable and spawning a new process for each

[Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP index files

In the docs it states that LDA ...takes mail from anMTAand delivers it to a user's mailbox, while keeping Dovecot index files up to date. I am wondering if LMTP also interacts with the Dovecot index files and keeps them up to date?

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP index files

On 10/3/2012 9:34 AM, l...@airstreamcomm.net wrote: In the docs it states that LDA ...takes mail from anMTAand delivers it to a user's mailbox, while keeping Dovecot index files up to date. I am wondering if LMTP also interacts with the Dovecot index files and keeps them up to date?

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP index files

On 2012-10-03 10:34 AM, l...@airstreamcomm.net l...@airstreamcomm.net wrote: In the docs it states that LDA ...takes mail from anMTAand delivers it to a user's mailbox, while keeping Dovecot index files up to date. I am wondering if LMTP also interacts with the Dovecot index files and keeps

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP index files

On 10/3/2012 10:03 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2012-10-03 10:34 AM, l...@airstreamcomm.net l...@airstreamcomm.net wrote: In the docs it states that LDA ...takes mail from anMTAand delivers it to a user's mailbox, while keeping Dovecot index files up to date. I am wondering if LMTP also

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP, Cyrus SASL, verbose_proctitle

On 2011-04-07 11:38 PM, Patrick Domack wrote: The paramaters that get passed, while not that hard, can be interesting to setup, it seems lmtp passes much more info than you could pass to the deliver-lda program on the command line. The only downside seems to be the loss of the x-original-to

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP, Cyrus SASL, verbose_proctitle

Quoting Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com: On 2011-04-07 11:38 PM, Patrick Domack wrote: The paramaters that get passed, while not that hard, can be interesting to setup, it seems lmtp passes much more info than you could pass to the deliver-lda program on the command line. The only

Re: [Dovecot] LDA vs LMTP, Cyrus SASL, verbose_proctitle

Quoting Joseph Tam jtam.h...@gmail.com: Is there a reason I should prefer LMTP over LDA for local delivery? Performance? Security? The Wiki doesn't differentiates LMTP vs LDA with respect to sendmail configuration, so am I correct that I just need to replace mail.local with dovecot-lda, which