Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-07-15 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 17:49, Steinar Bang s...@dod.no wrote: Phil Howard ttip...@gmail.com: I abandoned sendmail many years ago and haven't looked back.  I tried qmail and postfix, and was a lot happier with postfix.  I overlooked exim at the time, but from what little I've seen and heard,

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-07-15 Thread Steinar Bang
Phil Howard ttip...@gmail.com: And I fully accept that as a sufficient reason to make a choice. I made the choice of Dovecot, having zero experience with it, because of my experience with Courier. Sadly, making such a choice with zero experience and zero knowledge of either options is the

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-07-14 Thread Steinar Bang
Phil Howard ttip...@gmail.com: I abandoned sendmail many years ago and haven't looked back. I tried qmail and postfix, and was a lot happier with postfix. I overlooked exim at the time, but from what little I've seen and heard, it should be up there with postfix, making for a tough choice

[Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Chuck McManis
Sigh, In the interest of moving forward on this project I've given up trying to get Dovecot to support mailboxes, rather I've tweaked around in qmail and had it deliver into a mail directory on a disk, that isn't NFS mounted. That got me past the various locking complaints and operation not

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:59:55PM -0700, Chuck McManis wrote: In the interest of moving forward on this project I looked back at your other thread and at this one, and, hmmm. I invite you to join us in the new millennium. 1. POP3 sucks. IMAP can do everything POP3 can do, and many things

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Chuck McManis
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:59:55PM -0700, Chuck McManis wrote: In the interest of moving forward on this project I looked back at your other thread and at this one, and, hmmm. I invite you to join us in the new millennium.

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Ed W
On 17/06/2010 09:46, Chuck McManis wrote: Out of curiosity, lets say you were given the task I've set for myself which is described thusly: Provide a system that gives shell and email service to a dozen users, hosts perhaps 15 or so mailing lists, provides DNS for 20 - 30 machines. Preferred

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread William Blunn
Chuck McManis wrote: Out of curiosity, lets say you were given the task I've set for myself which is described thusly: Provide a system that gives shell and email service to a dozen users, hosts perhaps 15 or so mailing lists, provides DNS for 20 - 30 machines. Preferred OS and what makes it

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Ed W
On 17/06/2010 12:19, William Blunn wrote: Rent a virtual machine (e.g. Xen based). This saves you having to make capital expenditure on hardware (= keeps the bean counter happy). I haven't found virtual machines to be especially price efficient when you need plenty of storage available? Do

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread William Blunn
Ed W wrote: How are you backing up to S3? Most of the options I have seen have some serious issues that limit reliable full backups? Its been on my todo list for some time now to fix the C s3fs implementation that you find here: http://code.google.com/p/s3fs/ - code is shocking and could

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Peter Risdon
On 17/06/10 13:33, William Blunn wrote: Ed W wrote: How are you backing up to S3? Most of the options I have seen have some serious issues that limit reliable full backups? Its been on my todo list for some time now to fix the C s3fs implementation that you find here:

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread William Blunn
Peter Risdon wrote: Tarsnap is worth glancing at: http://www.tarsnap.com/ They appear to use S3 as their back-end :-) They charge $0.30 / GB.month compared to $0.15 / GB.month for S3, which would seem to be within the bounds of reason if they are effectively mapping S3 space into something

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Peter Risdon
On 17/06/10 14:11, William Blunn wrote: Peter Risdon wrote: Tarsnap is worth glancing at: http://www.tarsnap.com/ They appear to use S3 as their back-end :-) That's right, thought it might be relevant. It's written by Colin Percival, FreeBSD's security officer. They charge $0.30 /

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Chuck McManis
Thanks Timo. --Chuck On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 17.6.2010, at 6.59, Chuck McManis wrote: First, part of this effort was to move off of an APOP infrastructure into something more secure against password eavesdropping. To that end I've configured

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Chuck McManis
Thanks for the response, some snippage to cut down on list traffic ... On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote: 2a. mutt and alpine are both Unix console-based MUAs which understand

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-17 11:52 AM, Chuck McManis wrote: but I've been evaluating a ZFS based file server as well to see if it can get the same level of reliability. Care to share which one? Or just a FreeBSD based one of your own making? I've been considering NexentaStor Comunity Edition. The boss

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Jakob Curdes
Spammers are working every day to cause more abuse. Postmasters are trying to stay ahead of them, but we still see that over 90% of all traffic to port 25/tcp is abuse. Hmm, I would rather estimate it to around 99% on our multi-domain mailserver, including the connections we deny at the

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Chuck McManis
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.comwrote: On 2010-06-17 11:52 AM, Chuck McManis wrote: but I've been evaluating a ZFS based file server as well to see if it can get the same level of reliability. Care to share which one? Or just a FreeBSD based one of

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-17 3:33 PM, Chuck McManis wrote: Its just a FreeBSD 8.0 system with a Marvell 8 port SATA card and a couple of TB of of SATA drives. Thanks for the response... now I just have to find the time... ;) -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 04:46, Chuck McManis chuck.mcma...@gmail.com wrote: So SMTP hasn't changed much in 30 years ;-) I'd be interested in what you consider a 'modern' MTA. I've looked pretty thoroughly at sendmail, postfix, and qmail and of the three qmail is fairly reliable. Not sure what