Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2010-01-24 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 23:57 +0100, Papp Tamás wrote: > pop3_reuse_xuidl(pop3): yes If a mail has X-UIDL: header it's used. Is it possible that some mails have it, and that's the reason the UIDL changed? > > there are errors. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Logging > > > > Actually I've juest enabled

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2010-01-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-01-03, Papp Tamás (tom...@martos.bme.hu) wrote: > Well, the news is that every other user's client is working fine. > This error only for one user. Of course, this user is the boss:) Never fails... if I ever do meet up with Murphy I will kick the crap out of him.

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2010-01-03 Thread Papp Tamás
Tobias wrote, On 2009. 12. 29. 11:45: Hi Tamas yes I would try with another MUA just to verify whether it's a MUA- or server problem. Btw: No chance to persuade the user to use IMAP instead of POP3? Well, the news is that every other user's client is working fine. This error only for one

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2010-01-03 Thread Papp Tamás
Charles Marcus wrote, On 2009. 12. 29. 13:18: The fact that he has had 'no problems' in many years is purely the luck of the draw. One minor bug in either the IMAP/POP server or the mail client during an upgrade or other maintenance, and boom - he will *really* be surprised when *all* of his mes

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2010-01-03 Thread Papp Tamás
Justin Krejci wrote, On 2009. 12. 29. 16:27: Not to pick nits but pop3+leave on server does not mean you have all message from the dawn of time stored on the server. Outlook and presumably other MUAs have "remove from server after X time" and "remove from server when message is deleted" options

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2010-01-03 Thread Papp Tamás
Timo Sirainen wrote, On 2009. 12. 29. 21:08: dovecot -n output could be helpful. Also did you look at logs? Maybe Yes, I looked logs, I didn't found an error. This is dovecot -n: # 1.2.9: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 2.6.28-15-server x86_64 Ubuntu 9.04 xfs protocols: imap imaps p

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 09:48 +0100, Papp Tamas wrote: > I have a user with Outlook and he uses pop3 and leaves messages on server. > > > Sometimes the messages get downloaded again, when he starts the outlook. > Not all, but 7-9 hours back. > > uidl format is like it's suggested: > > pop3_uid

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2009-12-29, Justin Krejci (jkre...@usinternet.com) wrote: > Not to pick nits but pop3+leave on server does not mean you have all > message from the dawn of time stored on the server. Outlook and > presumably other MUAs have "remove from server after X time" and > "remove from server when messag

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Justin Krejci
e- From: dovecot-bounces+jkrejci=usinternet@dovecot.org [mailto:dovecot-bounces+jkrejci=usinternet@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Charles Marcus Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:19 AM To: Dovecot Mailing List Subject: Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server On 2009-12-29, Papp Tamas (

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2009-12-29, Papp Tamas (tom...@martos.bme.hu) wrote: > The protocoll imap is not the same as using pop3+leave messages on > server. That is correct. The POP protocol is designed to delete the messages from the server once they have been POPPED. The IMAP protocol is designed to leave the message

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2009-12-29 3:48 AM, Papp Tamas wrote: > I have a user with Outlook and he uses pop3 and leaves messages on server > > Sometimes the messages get downloaded again, when he starts the outlook. > Not all, but 7-9 hours back. > > uidl format is like it's suggested: > > pop3_uidl_format = %08Xu%0

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Papp Tamas
Papp Tamas wrote: Tobias wrote: yes I would try with another MUA just to verify whether it's a MUA- or server problem. Well as I wrote, it will be hard, but I'll do it. Until I cannot, do you have any other idea? BTW, I think we can be pretty sure, it's not a MUA problem, because it w

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Papp Tamas
Tobias wrote: yes I would try with another MUA just to verify whether it's a MUA- or server problem. Well as I wrote, it will be hard, but I'll do it. Until I cannot, do you have any other idea? Btw: No chance to persuade the user to use IMAP instead of POP3? No there is no chance

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Tobias
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:27:49 +0100, Papp Tamas wrote: > Tobias wrote: >> >> Is that a problem with other MUAs too? Or is Outlook the only affected >> one? >> You tried Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail to verify? >> > > No, the users are using only Outlook. Should I try it with TB? It would >

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Papp Tamas
Tobias wrote: Is that a problem with other MUAs too? Or is Outlook the only affected one? You tried Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail to verify? No, the users are using only Outlook. Should I try it with TB? It would be a bit hard, because the failure does not depend on anything, I don't

Re: [Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Tobias
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:48:46 +0100, Papp Tamas wrote: > hi All, > > I have a srange problem. > > Before dovecot there was a courier imap and it worked just fine. The > client(s) are the same then before, so I think, this is an server side > problem. > > I have a user with Outlook and he uses

[Dovecot] pop3+leave messages on server

2009-12-29 Thread Papp Tamas
hi All, I have a srange problem. Before dovecot there was a courier imap and it worked just fine. The client(s) are the same then before, so I think, this is an server side problem. I have a user with Outlook and he uses pop3 and leaves messages on server. Sometimes the messages get downl