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Greetings,
Oliver
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Bernardo Reino via dovecot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Juni 2024 13:18
An: Peter via dovecot
Betreff: [EXT] Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Peter via dovecot wrote:
> On 27/06/24 06:48, pgnd via dove
On 26/06/2024 20:48, pgnd via dovecot wrote:
for anyone interested, for dovecot v2.3.14+ @ Fedora,
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dovecot/blob/rawhide/f/dovecot-2.3.14-opensslv3.patch
Until this discussion started I didn't realize that I've been using the
unsupported version of
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Peter via dovecot wrote:
On 27/06/24 06:48, pgnd via dovecot wrote:
for anyone interested, for dovecot v2.3.14+ @ Fedora,
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dovecot/blob/rawhide/f/dovecot-2.3.14-opensslv3.patch
dovecot hums along nicely.
i've not seen a
My understanding was that OX were hoping for a 6-figure sum, or, at best, a
high 5-figure.
Certainly as far as I am aware nothing was ever going to be on the table for
4-figures or below.
If sales have changed their mind and introduced affordable options for
non-large-scale deployments then
Although things do change in our sales too and things are not set in stone.
There are some floor limit, but I know that megabucks are not needed to buy pro
licenses.
Aki
> On 27/06/2024 11:03 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps try reading my last post Scott.
>
> Perhaps
Perhaps try reading my last post Scott.
Perhaps especially the bit where I said OX were offered money but they were not
interested without megabucks being spent.
As others have said, take your cheap, unsubstatiated, attacks elsewhere chum.
On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 21:24, Scott Q. via
On 27/06/24 06:48, pgnd via dovecot wrote:
for anyone interested, for dovecot v2.3.14+ @ Fedora,
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dovecot/blob/rawhide/f/dovecot-2.3.14-opensslv3.patch
dovecot hums along nicely.
i've not seen a _crash_ in _many_ moons (quick looking thru ~ 18mos of
Scott Q. via dovecot skrev den 2024-06-26 20:50:
In your stead, I'd be happy and say thank you that a serious company
is making such a huge public/free contribution.
i can only say i am happy gentoo user with dovecot, but i would like to
pay for dovecot-pro, but its not avail anywhere sadly
What's her point really ? That someone owes her up to date,
FREE, secure software that she wants to use in a commercial setting
?
This has been debated ad nauseum. Get your expectations in check.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38301710
On Wednesday, 26/06/2024 at 16:13 Simon B via
With all due respect, you're welcome to disagree with Laura's point, but
she does have one.
So, please take your ad hominem attacks elsewhere.
Regards
Simon
On Wed, 26 Jun 2024, 21:55 Michael Tokarev via dovecot,
wrote:
> Can we please stop this thread here?
>
> Clearly, Laura does not seek
Can we please stop this thread here?
Clearly, Laura does not seek solutions, the intention seems to be shouting at
people.
As they say, don't feed the trolls, - don't give more caises fpr shouting.
Let this thread die in peace.
Thanks,
/mjt
26.06.2024 22:26, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
> Why do you care about the repo then ? Use the patch locally,
> publish it, etc. You care about OpenSSL 3.0 compatibility right ? What
> do you care if it's in the public tree or not.
Because Aki has been shouting from the rooftops here that "beware, its not that
easy, Dovecot crashes with
Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael
> Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
>
> So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to
OpenSSL premium ? I somehow doubt it.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 13:01, Lucas Rolff wrote:
>
> &
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > That Debian doesn't patch their LTS releases properly like other
> > > > operating systems, should probably be brought up with the Debian
> > > > release and security teams.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from Out
be brought up with the Debian
release and security teams.
Sent from Outlook for iOS
From: Laura Smith via dovecot
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:31:48 PM
To: Aki Tuomi
Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael
Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
The fundamental problem here is that
ate.
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS
>
> From: Laura Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:06:44 PM
> To: Lucas Rolff
> Cc: Aki Tuomi ; Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael
> Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
>
> So you're saying other operating system
; Laura Smith via dovecot
; Michael
Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL
premium ? I somehow doubt it.
On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 13:01, Lucas Rolff wrote:
That Debian doesn't patch their LTS releases
a dovecot
> ; Michael
> Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
>
> So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL
> premium ? I somehow doubt it.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 13:01, Lucas Rolff wrote:
>
&g
, 2024 1:31:48 PM
> To: Aki Tuomi aki.tu...@open-xchange.com
>
> Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org; Michael m...@hemathor.de
>
> Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
>
> The fundamental problem here is that this turns into a security problem,
> whic
.ms/o0ukef>
From: Laura Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:06:44 PM
To: Lucas Rolff
Cc: Aki Tuomi ; Laura Smith via dovecot
; Michael
Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL
p
ght up with the Debian release and security
> teams.
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS
>
> From: Laura Smith via dovecot
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:31:48 PM
> To: Aki Tuomi
> Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael
> Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
une 26, 2024 1:31:48 PM
To: Aki Tuomi
Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael
Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !
The fundamental problem here is that this turns into a security problem, which
in 2024 is not a nice thing to have.
Yes, theoretically I could run the previous Debian r
The fundamental problem here is that this turns into a security problem, which
in 2024 is not a nice thing to have.
Yes, theoretically I could run the previous Debian release, 11 Bullseye which
is now EOL but in LTS until 2026.
However, the OpenSSL delivered with Bullseye is 1.1.1. Any LTS
> On 26/06/2024 11:42 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>
>
> > > could you please elaborate on this? are there any security issues with
> > > using the debian version? what are the problems you are implicating with
> > > your above statement, that it's 'not fully working either'?
> > >
>
> > could you please elaborate on this? are there any security issues with
> > using the debian version? what are the problems you are implicating with
> > your above statement, that it's 'not fully working either'?
> >
> > greetings...
>
>
> It can sometimes crash.
>
> Aki
Does Dovecot
> On 26/06/2024 11:17 EEST Michael via dovecot wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:08:15 PM CEST, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
> > We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is
> > offered is broken because there is more than just "making it
> > compile" with things
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 06:08:15PM +0300, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
> We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is offered is
> broken because there is more than just "making it compile" with things like
> OpenSSL3, and yes, I can appreciate that it's not fully broken, but
On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:08:15 PM CEST, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is
offered is broken because there is more than just "making it
compile" with things like OpenSSL3, and yes, I can appreciate
that it's not fully broken, but it's
>
> We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is offered is
> broken because there is more than just "making it compile" with things like
> OpenSSL3, and yes, I can appreciate that it's not fully broken, but it's not
> fully working either.
Yeah, that's sort of what's
For what it's worth, I installed openssl 1.1.1w in a custom dir,
compiled dovecot 2.3.21 against it and it works like a charm against
our test suite and production load.
On Tuesday, 25/06/2024 at 11:08 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
> On 25/06/2024 17:26 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>
> On 25/06/2024 17:26 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 at 15:06, Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> wrote:
>
> > > On 25/06/2024 16:58 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023.
> > >
> >
On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 at 15:06, Aki Tuomi via dovecot
wrote:
> > On 25/06/2024 16:58 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
> >
> > Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023.
> >
> > It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in
> >
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 01:58:21PM +, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
> Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023.
>
> It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in
> https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/
Debian itself offers pakages of dovecot 2.3.19.
> On 25/06/2024 16:58 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>
>
> Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023.
>
> It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in
> https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/
We are going to add support for Debian Bookworm to Dovecot
Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023.
It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in
https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/
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