AW: [EXT] Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-07-01 Thread MK via dovecot
. Greetings, Oliver -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bernardo Reino via dovecot Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Juni 2024 13:18 An: Peter via dovecot Betreff: [EXT] Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Peter via dovecot wrote: > On 27/06/24 06:48, pgnd via dove

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-27 Thread John Fawcett via dovecot
On 26/06/2024 20:48, pgnd via dovecot wrote: for anyone interested, for dovecot v2.3.14+ @ Fedora, https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dovecot/blob/rawhide/f/dovecot-2.3.14-opensslv3.patch Until this discussion started I didn't realize that I've been using the unsupported version of

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-27 Thread Bernardo Reino via dovecot
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Peter via dovecot wrote: On 27/06/24 06:48, pgnd via dovecot wrote: for anyone interested, for dovecot v2.3.14+ @ Fedora, https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dovecot/blob/rawhide/f/dovecot-2.3.14-opensslv3.patch dovecot hums along nicely. i've not seen a

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-27 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
My understanding was that OX were hoping for a 6-figure sum, or, at best, a high 5-figure. Certainly as far as I am aware nothing was ever going to be on the table for 4-figures or below. If sales have changed their mind and introduced affordable options for non-large-scale deployments then

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-27 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
Although things do change in our sales too and things are not set in stone. There are some floor limit, but I know that megabucks are not needed to buy pro licenses. Aki > On 27/06/2024 11:03 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote: > > > Perhaps try reading my last post Scott. > > Perhaps

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-27 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
Perhaps try reading my last post Scott. Perhaps especially the bit where I said OX were offered money but they were not interested without megabucks being spent. As others have said, take your cheap, unsubstatiated, attacks elsewhere chum. On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 21:24, Scott Q. via

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Peter via dovecot
On 27/06/24 06:48, pgnd via dovecot wrote: for anyone interested, for dovecot v2.3.14+ @ Fedora, https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dovecot/blob/rawhide/f/dovecot-2.3.14-opensslv3.patch dovecot hums along nicely. i've not seen a _crash_ in _many_ moons (quick looking thru ~ 18mos of

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Benny Pedersen via dovecot
Scott Q. via dovecot skrev den 2024-06-26 20:50: In your stead, I'd be happy and say thank you that a serious company is making such a huge public/free contribution. i can only say i am happy gentoo user with dovecot, but i would like to pay for dovecot-pro, but its not avail anywhere sadly

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Q. via dovecot
What's her point really ? That someone owes her up to date, FREE,  secure software that she wants to use in a commercial setting ? This has been debated ad nauseum. Get your expectations in check. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38301710 On Wednesday, 26/06/2024 at 16:13 Simon B via

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Simon B via dovecot
With all due respect, you're welcome to disagree with Laura's point, but she does have one. So, please take your ad hominem attacks elsewhere. Regards Simon On Wed, 26 Jun 2024, 21:55 Michael Tokarev via dovecot, wrote: > Can we please stop this thread here? > > Clearly, Laura does not seek

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Michael Tokarev via dovecot
Can we please stop this thread here? Clearly, Laura does not seek solutions, the intention seems to be shouting at people. As they say, don't feed the trolls, - don't give more caises fpr shouting. Let this thread die in peace. Thanks, /mjt 26.06.2024 22:26, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
> Why do you care about the repo then ? Use the patch locally, > publish it, etc. You care about OpenSSL 3.0 compatibility right ? What > do you care if it's in the public tree or not. Because Aki has been shouting from the rooftops here that "beware, its not that easy, Dovecot crashes with

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Q. via dovecot
Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael > Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! > > So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL premium ?  I somehow doubt it. > > > > > On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 13:01, Lucas Rolff wrote: > > &

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
> wrote: > > > > > > > That Debian doesn't patch their LTS releases properly like other > > > > operating systems, should probably be brought up with the Debian > > > > release and security teams. > > > > > > > > Sent from Out

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Narcis Garcia via dovecot
be brought up with the Debian release and security teams. Sent from Outlook for iOS From: Laura Smith via dovecot Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:31:48 PM To: Aki Tuomi Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! The fundamental problem here is that

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Q. via dovecot
ate. > > Sent from Outlook for iOS > > From: Laura Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:06:44 PM > To: Lucas Rolff > Cc: Aki Tuomi ; Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael > Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! > > So you're saying other operating system

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Narcis Garcia via dovecot
; Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL premium ?  I somehow doubt it. On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 13:01, Lucas Rolff wrote: That Debian doesn't patch their LTS releases

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
a dovecot > ; Michael > Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! > > So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL > premium ?  I somehow doubt it. > > > > > On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 13:01, Lucas Rolff wrote: > &g

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
, 2024 1:31:48 PM > To: Aki Tuomi aki.tu...@open-xchange.com > > Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org; Michael m...@hemathor.de > > Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! > > The fundamental problem here is that this turns into a security problem, > whic

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Lucas Rolff via dovecot
.ms/o0ukef> From: Laura Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:06:44 PM To: Lucas Rolff Cc: Aki Tuomi ; Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! So you're saying other operating systems magically get access to OpenSSL p

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
ght up with the Debian release and security > teams. > > Sent from Outlook for iOS > > From: Laura Smith via dovecot > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:31:48 PM > To: Aki Tuomi > Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael > Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Lucas Rolff via dovecot
une 26, 2024 1:31:48 PM To: Aki Tuomi Cc: Laura Smith via dovecot ; Michael Subject: Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please ! The fundamental problem here is that this turns into a security problem, which in 2024 is not a nice thing to have. Yes, theoretically I could run the previous Debian r

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
The fundamental problem here is that this turns into a security problem, which in 2024 is not a nice thing to have. Yes, theoretically I could run the previous Debian release, 11 Bullseye which is now EOL but in LTS until 2026. However, the OpenSSL delivered with Bullseye is 1.1.1. Any LTS

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> On 26/06/2024 11:42 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote: > > > > > could you please elaborate on this? are there any security issues with > > > using the debian version? what are the problems you are implicating with > > > your above statement, that it's 'not fully working either'? > > > >

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
> > could you please elaborate on this? are there any security issues with > > using the debian version? what are the problems you are implicating with > > your above statement, that it's 'not fully working either'? > > > > greetings... > > > It can sometimes crash. > > Aki Does Dovecot

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> On 26/06/2024 11:17 EEST Michael via dovecot wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:08:15 PM CEST, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > > We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is > > offered is broken because there is more than just "making it > > compile" with things

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Marc Haber via dovecot
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 06:08:15PM +0300, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is offered is > broken because there is more than just "making it compile" with things like > OpenSSL3, and yes, I can appreciate that it's not fully broken, but

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-26 Thread Michael via dovecot
On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:08:15 PM CEST, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is offered is broken because there is more than just "making it compile" with things like OpenSSL3, and yes, I can appreciate that it's not fully broken, but it's

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
> > We can already see that the Debian/RedHat patched 2.3 which is offered is > broken because there is more than just "making it compile" with things like > OpenSSL3, and yes, I can appreciate that it's not fully broken, but it's not > fully working either. Yeah, that's sort of what's

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Q. via dovecot
For what it's worth, I installed openssl 1.1.1w in a custom dir, compiled dovecot 2.3.21 against it and it works like a charm against our test suite and production load. On Tuesday, 25/06/2024 at 11:08 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > On 25/06/2024 17:26 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote: >

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> On 25/06/2024 17:26 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 at 15:06, Aki Tuomi via dovecot > wrote: > > > > On 25/06/2024 16:58 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org > > > wrote: > > > > > > Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023. > > > > >

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 at 15:06, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > > On 25/06/2024 16:58 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org wrote: > > > > Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023. > > > > It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in > >

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Marc Haber via dovecot
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 01:58:21PM +, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote: > Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023. > > It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in  > https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/ Debian itself offers pakages of dovecot 2.3.19.

Re: Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> On 25/06/2024 16:58 EEST Laura Smith via dovecot wrote: > > > Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023. > > It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in  > https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/ We are going to add support for Debian Bookworm to Dovecot

Debian Bookworm packages, please !

2024-06-25 Thread Laura Smith via dovecot
Debian Bookworm (12) was released June 2023. It is therefore somewhat disappointing to see no Bookworm packages in  https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/ ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to