[Drakelist] Source for pushbutton switches C-4

2012-01-28 Thread wayne.smith
Anyone have a source (and/or part number) for the on/off push button switches controlling the C-4 Console Power? Wayne WB5FEX, Oklahoma City -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net Sent: Sa

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:52:08 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: >you can SEE a little >blue flash through the ceramic cap Nice of them to design the device to contain the magic blue smoke, though. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A. TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Jim Shorney wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:08:15 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: A half mA shouldn't be a problem, those lines are 'fused' very closely, but they should survive that! :-) That's actually funny, because years ago I first heard tech calling transistors "three-legged fuses". A coro

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Bob Spooner
Garey and all, To my way of thinking, there is less chance of reversing the connections if you use a Jones plug. It's hard enough to keep everything straight when you confront the maze of wires for multiple transceivers and other equipment even if you have only one amplifier. 73, Bob AD3K -O

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:08:15 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: > A half mA shouldn't be a problem, those lines >are 'fused' very closely, but they should survive that! :-) That's actually funny, because years ago I first heard tech calling transistors "three-legged fuses". A corollary to Murphy's L

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Ron - Yes, that is a good way to speed up the amp keying. A half mA shouldn't be a problem, those lines are 'fused' very closely, but they should survive that! :-) Saves a whole ~25 mSec!! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Shorney
Yeah, I understand engineering to price points. On the smaller rigs, it's more an issue of availabe real estate on the rear panel. Doesn't mean I have to LIKE it... :) 73 -Jim On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:31:30 -0800 (PST), Ron wrote: >Remember Jim, today's engineering staff (or should I say finance

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:53:15 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: >I'd be inclined to use the fixed 'line' AUDIO jack. The counter input can be >handy, obviously as a >counter, but also as a good quick troubleshooting tool for the radio. Or just drill a hole for another RCA jack, or even a mini "earph

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Curt Nixon
Hi Jim: Those Din types are really no harder to find than the multi-pin Jones conn's ! :) Curt On 1/28/2012 11:01 AM, Jim Shorney wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:32:36 -0500 (EST), K9sqg wrote: Curious as to why the VOX and ALC come from the power supply rather than the rig itself. I alway

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Ron
Gary, You mentioned the VOX pin being a real relay. The H&K pg 37 Nov 1988 QST shows a way to use the motherboard 10V TX line and a few components to key your amp sooner/faster. I am looking at doing that only for the extra "speed" in getting the amp in line. Based on my tests so far, it lo

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Ron - I'd be inclined to use the fixed 'line' AUDIO jack. The counter input can be handy, obviously as a counter, but also as a good quick troubleshooting tool for the radio. The other alternative of course is to get the proper connector, they are available, or use the 'spade' type power con

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Ron
Gary, Any ideas on where to put another RCA jack for the VOX relay? Maybe steel the counter input? 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Garey Barrell wrote: > From: Garey Barrell > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 > To: "Ron" > Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net > Date: Sa

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Ron
Remember Jim, today's engineering staff (or should I say finance and marketing engineering staff) is not to worry about your cost of ownership. They are there to get the equipment sold at best profit margin possible and then obsoleted so that you will buy another. It's all about cash flow. BT

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Hi Evan - Simple!! The TR-3 was designed for mobile use, no amplifiers and minimum number of connectors to undo. This is the reason for the speaker connector coming out of the back of the power connector. The AC-3 had no VOX or ALC connections either. Then, here comes the Twins. My first T

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:32:36 -0500 (EST), K9sqg wrote: >Curious as to why the VOX and ALC come from the power supply rather than the >rig itself. I always thought that was a strange arrangement. Perhaps they though the rear panel of the radio was getting too cluttered. More puzzling/annoying t

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:36:20 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: >Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin 8. A REAL relay >contact too, none of this >wimpy reed relay stuff. :-) Or surface mount transistors. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A. TR7/RV7/R7A/L7

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread K9sqg
Curious as to why the VOX and ALC come from the power supply rather than the rig itself. I always thought that was a strange arrangement. Fortunately, I have a stereo cable with color coded "channels" so it makes connection simple but would be simpler to run shorter leads directly from the rig

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Joe Pyles
You need a Cinch-Jones S-310 CCT plug and connect the shield of the alc cable to pin 10. Connect the center to pin 9. Plug into the matching 10 pin PS7 socket on the rear of the TR7. 73, Joe KC9LAD At 07:41 AM 1/28/2012, you wrote: I am sure that are at least a few folks who are using the TR7 w

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Ron - Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin 8. A REAL relay contact too, none of this wimpy reed relay stuff. :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs Ron wrote: I am sure that are at least a few

Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Ron - Pin 9 of the PS-7 Control connector. The 10 Pin Jones connector. Pin 10 is ground. Some day when you're bored, you could go in and link Pin 9 over to that SPARE phono jack just above it. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplem

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[Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7

2012-01-28 Thread Ron
I am sure that are at least a few folks who are using the TR7 with a power supply other than the PS7. And I am thinking of those some are using linears. So where and how did you gain access to the ALC line of the TR7? TNX es 73, Ron WD8SBB ___ Drak