RE: [Dri-devel] Rebuttal on DRM/DRI porting guide? posts

2002-01-18 Thread David Johnson
Another interesting point is that you have your own fork of the XFree tree. This further limits the input into the design by eliminating all the qualified X developers without direct rendering interest from the discussion. They all live/work on the XFree lists and don't watch

Re: [Dri-devel] DRM/DRI porting guide?

2002-01-17 Thread David Johnson
Let me toss in my 2 cents. The problem is that DRI development has never reached critical mass in the open source world. There was a time when there were quite a few developers working on DRI related projects a PI or VA but much of the design discussions were private and people couldn't eaves

Re: [Dri-devel] SGI transfers 3D graphics patents to MS

2002-01-17 Thread David Johnson
Of course we don't know exactly which patents are involved, or what the terms of the transfer were. But my guess would be that the patents primarily involve hardware, and Microsoft is interested in covering its potential liabilities as it moves into the hardware market (though XBox, Homestation

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-03 Thread David Johnson
What you say is true, it isn't all that difficult for you and I, but compare that to Windows where you have one driver set for a whole range of adapters and all the user has to do is download and click. That is why Windows is so popular. It is simple. Just because you can say something like

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 17:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Well, we (GATOS) do have the docs, under similar NDA. I believe PI/VA was more doc-rich ;) But (looking in them) they

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
** well, let's see how many flames I can generate with this.. ** I'll see if I can generate more. One point that I think has been missed is that while Open Source in general (and Linux, in particular) improves a lot user and developer experience, the binaries get even less value than in

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
From: Gareth Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 18:02:16 -0700 Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, David Johnson wrote

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
Loki didn't get low level (i.e. register level) idct docs. They got an idct library with docs on how to use that library. I don't think PI/VA got them either. There is some seriously proprietary stuff with idct that for legal reasons ATI wouldn't want to expose. Would you know

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-02 Thread David Johnson
Or it could be that the iDCT core was not developed by ATI, but by someone else, and ATI just licensed it. This could explain why they are so adamant about not releasing the docs. As for TV-out they might be afraid that releasing the specs could be consired equivalent to providing Macrovision

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
From: Gareth Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:05:13 -0700 Dacobi Coding wrote: But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
From: Gareth Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:56:53 -0700 David Johnson wrote: They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself t