On Sul, 2004-09-05 at 23:11, Jon Smirl wrote:
> What is the advantage to continuing a development model where two
> groups of programmers work independently, with little coordination on
> two separate code bases trying to simultaneously control the same
> piece of hardware? This is a continuous sou
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 11:33:53AM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
>
> Then how am I going to merge fbdev and DRM so that we don't have two
> drivers fighting over the same hardware? I was planning on adding
> pieces of the existing fbdev code to DRM in order to implement printk
> from the kernel. It see
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[...]
> Wrong and wrong. If you run Debian unstable (which is WAY more stable
> than, say, FC2) then you can apt-get upgrade to the latest kernel.
What makes you say this? I've seen no stability problems with FC2.
--
Dr. Horst H. von Brand
On Llu, 2004-09-06 at 21:58, Hamie wrote:
> The fs -> SCSI interface is a logical one.
We just have to make the fb and DRI to hardware one logical.
> Unless you can have fb sitting on top of DRM of course... (I discount
> DRM on-top of fb, because of the D == Direct... No other reason :)...
>
>
Alan Cox wrote:
On Sul, 2004-09-05 at 23:11, Jon Smirl wrote:
What is the advantage to continuing a development model where two
groups of programmers work independently, with little coordination on
two separate code bases trying to simultaneously control the same
piece of hardware? This is a con
Alan Cox wrote:
On Llu, 2004-09-06 at 21:58, Hamie wrote:
The fs -> SCSI interface is a logical one.
We just have to make the fb and DRI to hardware one logical.
OK. (Even) I follow that... :)
Unless you can have fb sitting on top of DRM of course... (I discount
DRM on-top of fb, bec
Some examples of merging are turning two independent radeon
personality modules into a single one. Another thing I need to do is
to extract the printk support from the core fb module and put it
somewhere I can get to it from DRM. We can't have two cores trying to
attach to the same device and then
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:15:07 +0100, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In some cases yes. The DRM is happy with the idea of the kernel being a
> DRM client too.
Thats actually a pretty cool idea. For us that need to use the vesa
fbcon driver because
there is no native driver, it would probably
Patrick McFarland wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:15:07 +0100, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In some cases yes. The DRM is happy with the idea of the kernel being a
DRM client too.
Thats actually a pretty cool idea. For us that need to use the vesa
fbcon driver because
there is no nativ
Jon Smirl wrote:
They have to be merged. Cards with two heads need the mode set on each
head. fbdev only sets the mode on one head. If I teach fbdev how to
set the mode of the other head fbdev needs to learn about memory
management. The DRM memory management code is complex and is a big
chunk of t
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:43:17 +0200, Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jon Smirl wrote:
> >I would also like to fix things so that we can have two logged in
> >users, one on each head. This isn't going to work if one them uses
> >fbdev and keeps swithing the chip to 2D mode while the other
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:51:24AM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:
Then drm_core would always be bundled with the OS.
Is there any real advantage to spliting core/library and creating three
interface compatibily problems?
Yes we only have one binary interface, between the core an
Jon Smirl wrote:
I'm a little concerned that we are doing a lot of work to support a
few people (<100) using DRM on BSD. I suspicious that it is a very
small number since we get close to zero complaints about BSD even
though we break it continuously.
I think the difference may be that BSD users don
Jon Smirl wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:43:17 +0200, Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jon Smirl wrote:
I would also like to fix things so that we can have two logged in
users, one on each head. This isn't going to work if one them uses
fbdev and keeps swithing the chip to 2D mode wh
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 01:09:11PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Jon Smirl wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:43:17 +0200, Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Jon Smirl wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I would also like to fix things so that we can have two logged in
> >>>users, one
On Mer, 2004-09-08 at 14:40, Ville SyrjÃlà wrote:
> Like Jon said the hardware can do it but the XFree86 driver doesn't allow
> it. AFAIK it doesn't even allow XAA acceleration on the secondary head.
>
> I can run multiple 3D apps simultaneosly on both heads of my G400 with
> DirectFB. But curre
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