OLS and console rearchitecture

2004-07-28 Thread Jon Smirl
After talking to many people at OLS this seems to be the consensus for rearchitecting fbdev/DRM. It has been proposed that this design be a five year goal but there is still disagreement about the exact path to get there. This is a first pass for the fbdev/DRM people. I will incorporate comments

Re: OLS and console rearchitecture

2004-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2004-07-28 at 19:53, Jon Smirl wrote: First a basic definition. There are two consoles, the kernel one (printk, kdbg, OOPs, etc) and user one (normal console logins). There is no requirement that these consoles be handled with the same code even though they are today. Not sure that

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] OLS and console rearchitecture

2004-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2004-07-28 at 22:31, Kronos wrote: There was a thread on acpi-devel about POSTing VGA ROM after resume: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=acpi4linuxm=109023076427394w=2 The code does a real mode switch in kernel and execute the ROM. Ok, doing that in userspace is more elegant, but

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] OLS and console rearchitecture

2004-07-28 Thread Jon Smirl
--- Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sysfs? I sent a patch a while ago but didn't get much feedback. How do you atomically tie sysfs objects to fbdev and X permissions models ? I think the plan here is for ROM export to be implemented by the PCI driver not the video ones since other things

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] OLS and console rearchitecture

2004-07-28 Thread Ian Romanick
Alan Cox wrote: On Mer, 2004-07-28 at 22:31, Kronos wrote: Btw, how do we POST non-x86 (eg. ppc) video boards? I don't think that there's x86 code in their ROM... Same way X does - x86emu I think he meant using OpenFirmware video cards on x86 boxes. Does x86emu take care of that? In any case,

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] OLS and console rearchitecture

2004-07-28 Thread Jon Smirl
I asked this at OLS and no one knew of an open source x86 Open Firmware emulator. 99% of the time it is people wanting to use cheap x86 cards in Open Firmware systems to avoid having to pay $$ for those added valued ROMs. --- Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Cox wrote: On Mer,