[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Norwalk CT repeater

2009-10-02 Thread Alan G
Thank you for your info. If I cannot reach by hand held I will continue with my Dongle. As long as I am stuck in the room, I may as well used my computer. Probably if the repeater was in Greenwich or New Canaan, I would have some luck. Also cannot understand why WECA which is so active has

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Channel Spacing

2009-10-02 Thread Mark Thompson
www.arrl.org/announce/board-0907/ Minutes of the 2009 Second Meeting ARRL Board of Directors Teleconference – July 17-18, 2009 29. On motion of Mr. Sarratt, seconded by Mr. Frenaye, the following resolution was ADOPTED: WHEREAS, there is current substantial amateur radio movement, activity,

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread bosshardss
P25 and DSTAR are naturals for cutting bandwidth. DSTAR is -26db @ +/-3 Khz, there abouts (going from memory) and the mask is similar to P25. Some of the new commercial designs will be either 6.25 or 2 talk paths in 12.5 (sharing a system/frequency - isn't that a novel idea?). --- In

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread beamar
Speaking of Band Plans. It looks like the new IC 9100 will work  D Star on 6M and 10M. Anybody got any thoughts about D Star simplex frequencies for these bands? Buddy Morgan WB4OMG On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:15:40 PM, bosshardss bossh...@gmail.com wrote: From: bosshardss bossh...@gmail.com

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread Charles Scott
Bosshardss: And of course many more recent repeaters can be configured for narrow-band analog service. There's no reason someone couldn't simply decide to take a repeater narrow and there's plenty of Hams now with radios that can do this as well. Chuck - N8DNX bosshardss wrote: P25 and

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread John Hays
NXDN uses the same codec/modulation as D-STAR, that is why D-STAR DV is claimed to be 6.25 Khz., the radios may just not be as tight. I think the Utah VHF Society studies showed that different models of Icom D-STAR radios exhibited different RF characteristics.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread Michael A. Waldron
I don't see how the system you linked is more efficient than D-Star, in fact they use an AMBE vocoder (the heart of DStar digital audio) in their technical specifications. It runs at the same effective baud rate, 4800, as current D-Star DV modes. The only difference I actually see is they were

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread Trevor .
The Icom and Kenwood commercial systems use a different modulation system hence the narrower bandwidth. The current modulation scheme for D-STAR is really designed for 10 kHz channel spacing, although it can just about be squeezed into 8.33 kHz channels. You cannot acheive 6.25 kHz channel

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Approves Study Committee to Research Develop Plan for Narrowband Chan

2009-10-02 Thread John
Technically we are both right, NXDN uses AMBE over 4FSK and D-STAR uses AMBE over GMSK (in current radios) but can also be run over 4FSK according to the specification. --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Trevor . m5...@... wrote: The Icom and Kenwood commercial systems use a