Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:35 AM 3/28/2010, you wrote: >Here is what I feel like are "valid" dongle uses. > >1) Traveling in hotel. >2) No D-Star repeater in range at home. >3) Link to a specific reflector and not use local repeater. All of these are common uses for the dongle, though my preference would be to use a

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:03 AM 3/28/2010, you wrote: >The important question to me: is Internet use good or bad for ham >radio (IRLP, Echolink, WIRES, DVDongle/DVAP, remote HF control, etc.) > >My answer is "Yes." Exactly Gary, you've pretty much covered the issues. >We do need RF capability - lots of it - just

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Adrian
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 14:24 +, Reg wrote: > > > Having read the previous posts in the Digest Version, I only had one > point to make. > > We need to ensure that the DV dongle does not take-over the D-Star > network. Yes, really we wondered if DV really stood for Darth Vader, and there

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Chris Fowler
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 14:24 +, Reg wrote: > We need to ensure that the DV dongle does not take-over the D-Star > network. > > Dongles are, compared to an RF radio, very cheap. Too many folk using > them and not buying radios is my concern. If that were to happen, > then the repeaters would gra

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] FW: [D-STAR_Admins] Database Cleanup Report

2010-03-27 Thread Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM
Please post accordingly... Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / WQFK-894 Fla. D-Star Tech Support Group http://www.florida-dstar.info Polk ARES A.E.C. http://www.polkemcomm.org BB8330 PIN: 30965B58 _ From: d-star_adm..

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio? We embrace new modes?

2010-03-27 Thread Steve
Well I am using a DVAP set to 146.550 and am accessing Dstar through my IC92AD. That is amateur radio as I am using a simplex frequency in the Ham Band..Steve From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Joeseph Mesh Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio? We embrace new modes?

2010-03-27 Thread Kb3hg
Back to basics, DVD to a radio or another DVD or radio to radio via rf or internet. Call signs pretty much need to registered to go through a gateways etc. local may not require registration. Registration is focused on legitimate call signs. The common root being a licensed amateur radio opera

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Reg
Having read the previous posts in the Digest Version, I only had one point to make. We need to ensure that the DV dongle does not take-over the D-Star network. Dongles are, compared to an RF radio, very cheap. Too many folk using them and not buying radios is my concern. If that were to happen,

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Does the internet comprise a control 'link' ?

2010-03-27 Thread bosshardss
(38) Remote control. The use of a control operator who indirectly manipulates the operating adjustments in the station through a control link to achieve compliance with the FCC Rules. >From the Land Mobile Industry (PMR) it is common practice to control radio transmitters remotely, sometimes fro

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio? We embrace new modes?

2010-03-27 Thread Dr. Joeseph Mesh
Computers are not radios even when they are being used for communications.. Here’s the test: Follow the RF! If you are using a wireless connection to a network with a computer then you are back to being “on the radio”. Is that RF in an amateur band... NO!... Thus it is still NOT amateur radio

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Where's the Beef ? (Station)

2010-03-27 Thread bosshardss
In the US, §97.3 Definitions. (a) The definitions of terms used in Part 97 are: (1) Amateur operator. A person named in an amateur operator/primary license station grant on the ULS consolidated licensee database to be the control operator of an amateur station. Generally a dongle is used to co

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Ted Wrobel
All this reminds me of the discussion of remote-operated HF stations and the question of contest credits. Is it fair for two hams in Connecticut to 'compete' for DX awards if one of them is operating a remote station in the Rocky Mountains? Never heard a good solution to the situation and don't re

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio? We embrace new modes?

2010-03-27 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 07:46 AM 3/27/2010, Bill Jourdain wrote: Back when ham radio was only CW operation did they ask the question whether voice communication was really ham radio? I doubt it because new modes and methods of operation came from the spirit of the hobby – to experiment and communicate. Each new m

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
The important question to me: is Internet use good or bad for ham radio (IRLP, Echolink, WIRES, DVDongle/DVAP, remote HF control, etc.) My answer is "Yes." On the good side The Internet is a useful tool. Just two examples: -How often will I have a leisurely chat with a ham in Hawaii, Austral

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Bill Jourdain
There have been a lot of comments on this topic and I won't belabor the point (at least not too much), but remember that amateur radio is about experimentation and communication. To me, D-Star, Dongle, DVAP, etc. is the epitome of our hobby. Back when ham radio was only CW operation did they ask

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:03 PM 3/27/2010, you wrote: >Pick up your mic./Dongle/whatever and put a call out – it’s all Ham Radio. Agree 100%. Enjoy the hobby, whatever form it takes for you! :) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Declan Mc Glone
Well said! I'm not sure what you are supposed to do if you operate using a Dongle, is the suggestion that you should ignore any other dongle users that might pop up? Just because someone has a view it's NOT Amateur Radio? If two dongle users are having a QSO on a repeater/reflector the opport

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Barry
Totally agree Jim, Seeing that most hams either send private email's to each other or use a phone if they do want a private chat, using anything else that anyone can hear or 'tap in to' means you DO want others to hear and maybe join in. I think Dongle to Dongle chat (direct without using any

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread J. Moen
I'd love to see a poll on whether anyone cares whether DV to DV Dongle is amateur radio. I happen to agree that a "QSO" -- or "Ham Radio" as has been stated here - must involve RF. I was born in 1944, and in back in the 50s, everything we Hams did involved RF. So if I use my DStar HT to tal