[dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-28 Thread jkoltner
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Woodrick, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: History has shown that the Internet is much more survivable than some hams think. Absolutely. The Internet has at least a thousand times more access points and wired linked than any amateur radio system does; I think

[dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-28 Thread Joel Koltner
Hi Chuck, Good points. Although I think the likelihood of a (successful) large scale attack on the Internet itself is quite small compared the myriad of natural disasters we have every year, it certainly it worth thinking about and planning for. At some point I think you're just back to HF

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-28 Thread Sebastian
That was the thinking for many years. However, after a lot of research, it was determined that Andrew was indeed a Cat 5 when it hit Florida. I place my trust in the National Hurricane Center: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/NOAA_pr_8-21-02.html Wikipeida:

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jun 26, 2008, at 3:20 PM, nj902 wrote: Beg to differ, Nate. I know you computer gurus are all gaga about the world-wide call sign routed [Nextel Direct-Talk] D-Star model, but from the point of view of an Emergency Management Agency, we have no interest in having one of our

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:36 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote: I was told the that the Internet was still available in parts of New Orleans after Katrina eventhough the power and the telephones were out. Yes, that's what I heard as well (read my notes on the most common failure mode for Internet linked repeaters).

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Mathaeus (Matthew Fonner)
Thank you all for your responses. I now have a better perspective of things. Matt / N3WNX

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Doug Ferrell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Jack wrote: I was in Lafayette, LA for this event, our cable Internet was only as good as there batteries and gas powered generators, then there was also the lines that were down. The short COX had limited or no coverage for 3 days in some areas and in the rural area I

Re: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Ron Wright
Tony and all, Here in Tampa Bay, Florida, area we have a number of cable providers that offer cable, internet, phone, etc. on one cable. I have Verizon FIOS which is a fiber optics to the home and I subscribe to cable TV, internet at 3 Mb and phone. The phone is high, but the others are

Re: RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Ron Wright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/26 Thu PM 11:07:01 EDT To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access Matt, Since its inception, the Internet has never gone down.

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread n1tai
: Woodrick, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:19 am Subject: RE: RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access I have walked into a location where the eye of a hurricane has passed and Internet was available. And don’t forget

Re: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Ron Wright
Not sure what Cat 5 hurricane you were in. There has never been a Cat 5 hurricane hit Florida going back over 100 years. Sure there has been one, maybe within last 100,000 yrs, hi. Kertina was Cat 5, but down to Cat 4 before hitting New Orlenes. I remember Charley in 2004. Was headed right

RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-27 Thread Bob McCormick W1QA
Ed WA4YIH wrote: Since its inception, the Internet has never gone down. There are places where access has been unavailable, but the Internet has never gone down. Except for the last mile, most Internet connections are highly redundant. In the middle of Katrina, in the middle of the

Building redundant D-STAR Systems (was: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access)

2008-06-27 Thread Nate Duehr
Bob McCormick W1QA wrote: In what I've drawn up so far - one of the weakest points in our whole configuration is the D-STAR repeater controller itself! Its easy to configure redundancy in that last mile network connection ... and setup a reliable gateway including maybe even a backup system.

RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-26 Thread Woodrick, Ed
Interesting viewpoint (BTW, why do you never identify who you are?) If you don't want anyone transiting your gateway, then it is really easy just to stop the services on the gateway, or block the inbound ports. But from the point of view of many of us and our Emergency Management Agencies,

[dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-26 Thread nj902
Identify who I am? Well, Ed, I use the internet option for Yahoo groups and I have noted that on every message I enter on every group I post to - it clearly shows: nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - so I didn't think there was anybody who didn't have access to QRZ if they wanted to know who I am.

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-26 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:20 AM 6/27/2008, you wrote: As far as communications outside of the local area - we have HF rigs in our EOC and lots of local volunteers who are willing to show up with HF capabilities as needed. You might be surprised at how out of area communications can be used. The VoIP WX Net offers

[dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-26 Thread nj902
...I'm not trying to start any arguments... I wouldn't take it that you were - this is a discussion list - people discuss things - we ask questions - share thoughts and learn. I started by reading most of the messages in the list archives - there's lots of information about system operation,

RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access

2008-06-26 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:07 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote: Matt, Since its inception, the Internet has never gone down. There are places where access has been unavailable, but the Internet has never gone down. Except for the last mile, most Internet connections are highly redundant. In the middle of Katrina, in the