Well, it seems the order from on high for KP5 to QRT has
been dismissed as "one of those things". Those who worked
them will get the card - myself included.
But my inquiring mind still wants to know who took it
upon them self to decide that KP5 should be cut short.
Rich, N8UX.
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I have to wonder about that.
Now keep in mind that following is simply the half-baked the musings of an
idle imagination... so please don't start rumors that this IS what
happened...
But suppose that some amateur had a legit concern that the recent KP5
operation was, indeed, authorized and legiti
Weak excuse. Call the "feds" to verify a dxpedition is "legit"??
Naw, sounds more like someone was out to get those guys, have them
go QRT and be discredited.
I say, git out the hangin' rope and let's have a good old necktie
party at Scaffold (er. Scarborough) Reef at high-noon!!! :-)
Appropria
At 12:35 03/14/06, Gary McClellan wrote:
I say, git out the hangin' rope and let's have a good old necktie
party at Scaffold (er. Scarborough) Reef at high-noon!!! :-)
Appropriate Clint Eastwood music playing in the background..
Naw, better stillleave HIM on Desecheo, sans-radio/operating
Not surprised.some bureaocrat/political appointee was mad that he was
not consulted etc
The sad part is that dope runners and others go ashore there all the time
without getting caught.
73 Norm K1AA
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The Daily DX has had an "exclusive" on this story since it was published a
couple of weeks ago. I assume that Bernie W3UR or the author will publish the
information "to the world" shortly. In the mean time, speculation is just
that.
73 - Jim AD1C (a Daily DX subscriber)
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Jim Reisert AD1C, 7
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
The Daily DX has had an "exclusive" on this story since it was published a
couple of weeks ago. I assume that Bernie W3UR or the author will publish the
information "to the world" shortly. In the mean time, speculation is just
that.
73 - Jim AD1C (a Daily DX subscriber)
Yes, I read it.
But the key unanswered question is WHO called his elected goniff, er,
congressperson and complained -- and WHY. We can speculate, but we may
never know. And if that poor schmuck has any brains, which in itself is
arguable, he'll keep his mouth shut and we'll never know. Otherwis
Actually, according to information posted on Bernie's Daily DX site, it
was not "some bureaocrat/political appointee," but rather a licensed
amateur who complained to his congressperson, who then complained to the
FWS.
So, it is a licensed amateur, motivated by reasons known only to him/her
a
And now the thread has gone full circle, as we've come right back to where
we started...
The question remains, though, as to WHY this schmuck did what they did.
73
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:
Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story.
DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past.
73 Pete
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Ron Notarius WN3VAW
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Another question: how does a random licensed amateur cause the operation to
be prematurely terminated? A Freedom of Information Act query into the
agency that implemented the termination might yield a clue or two.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Peter, sorry - NO we don't. I want to know WHY what was done WAS done.
Open story.
73, Gary K7ZD
Peter Penta wrote:
Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story.
DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past.
73 Pe
I agree. Not to punish the schmuck per se, but to make sure that this type
of stunt doesn't happen again.
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Of Gary McClellan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Understanding what happened so we can minimize the probability that it will
happen again seems like a reasonable course of action.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:17 PM
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Peteperhaps you know something?
NF4A
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Gary McClellan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 PM
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Peter, sorry - NO we don't. I want to know WHY what was don
The schmuck should be punished. It seems pretty obvious to me that it
was someone else who was wanting to go, but didn't have the right
connections to get approval. Then, in a selfish, sour grapes move, he
saw to it that if he couldn't go, nobody would.
The FOIA is a good idea and if/when th
It is sad that a simple but clear statement of the recent KP5 operation can
not just be published, apparently. Full disclosure will make everyone sit
easier.
However, after being somewhat involved in operations in XW, VU4, 9N, A5, and
so on, I also know that sometimes nothing can be said with
I'll bet there are at least 50 different theories
about the guy that caused the problem. Here is mine. The guy needs
KP5 for a all time new one, he is convinced that F&WL has not
given permission and the contacts will not count for DXCC. He is sure that
these guys have ruined his chance f
I'm betting he needs something besides KP5 for the top of the honor roll
and called his congressman to make sure no one passes him on the honor
roll. That or he had an expedition planned and he doesn't want anyone
stealing his thunder. Some hams are shallow and pathetic, so neither of
these sce
Fellow DXers:
Having been a newspaper reporter covering law enforcement for 20+ years
I can tell you whoever this is will spill the beans so to speak
eventually. People just like to brag. I've written about 100's of
cases where it wasn't necessarily good police work that solved it
(although
What "nasty rhetoric?" There is quite a bit of innuendo going back and
forth, but no nasty rhetoric. I suppose if I had called my Congressman
asking to shut down the operation, I might be sweating a little, but I
don't think anyone considers anything that's been said here "nasty
rhetoric."
Wh
The
issue at hand is not the documentation, but who was responsible for the shut
down... and why.
As far
as the proper paperwork etc., all was explained in the release via the Daily DX
several weeks ago. Yes, I know this hasn't been publicly dissemenated yet,
but I'm sure all will be out
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Peter Penta wrote:
> Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story.
> DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past.
>
> 73 Pete
You could say that about the JFK assassination, too. However, there a
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
> Another question: how does a random licensed amateur cause the operation to
> be prematurely terminated? A Freedom of Information Act query into the
> agency that implemented the termination might yield a clue or two.
>
>73,
>
>Dave, AA6YQ
>
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:
> Forgive me for asking a stupid question and throwing water on
> everyone's parade but has anyone published a copy of the documents,
> signed by F&W, authorizing the KP5 operation...???...
I have never seen ANY documents published showing that any given
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