[DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Barry
Perhaps this is a fluke, but if not, something is seriously wrong with the system. I'm looking at the lotw stats at http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status 2012-12-14 11:02:10 28,382 8,932,232 3,874,028,579 2012-12-04 16:13:53 (9d 18h 48m 17s ago) 2012-12-14 10:02:27 28,37

RE: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Charlie Wooten NF4A
I wish you guys would quitcherbitchin about LOTW.give em a chance to fix the problem.don't sit there and criticize something that is allowing you to get DXCC confirmations in lightning speed compared to 10 years agotake off your "computer expert" hat and let the league's staff deal wit

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Ryan Jairam
Has the league become a dictatorship now? Last I checked I voted in elections a month ago... We aren't just customers of ARRL, we ARE ARRL and if we don't like how things are going, we have a right to demand change. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Charlie Wooten NF4A wrote: > >

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Barry, The reported backlog is simply the time between upload of the last processed file and the reporting epoch. It is a backward looking statistic and not predictive. If you want predictive, look at the number of QSOs in the queue - which continues to increase - and apply an value for proce

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy (K5MWH)
Go to the LOTW site and read carefully. There is a discussion that tells, in part, that new hardware is on order, and is expected to arrive in 6-8 weeks. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT!!! RELAX!!! Constantly getting your shorts all in a wad is uncomfortable, and bad for your health. It raises yo

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Go to the LOTW site and read carefully. There is a discussion that tells, in part, that new hardware is on order, and is expected to arrive in 6-8 weeks. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT!!! That is if you *believe* the claim that the hardware will fix it. With a very large database, decreases in throu

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy (K5MWH)
On 12/14/2012 11:24 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Go to the LOTW site and read carefully. There is a discussion that tells, in part, that new hardware is on order, and is expected to arrive in 6-8 weeks. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT!!! That is if you *believe* the claim that the hardware will fix it

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Insist on transparency from ARRL. I have a problem believing a solution presented as the only option by the same IT department that allowed LotW to run out of disk space and crash. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/14/2012 12:31 PM, Mike(W5UC) & Kathy (K5MWH) wrote: On 12/14/2012 11:24 AM, Joe S

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy (K5MWH)
OK, great idea, and then what? If we believe that the present IT dept isn't being truthful with us, why should we expect that our 'insisting" will change anything? Quite sometime ago I suggested to my director that LoTW be shut down for as long as necessary to achieve a long term solution. I

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Donald Greenbaum
Remember the days when you mailed in cards to the league and it took 3 months. to process? I'll take 10 days over that anytime. It used to take 6 years to get your cards back from Box 88. Now I see even our Russian friends are on LOTW. And I had my PT0S 160 Qso confirmed in days. LOTW

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> LOTW even at 20 days is a tremendous tool. I'm not concerned about 20 days for a confirmation. My concern is 20 days (or more) even before the initial transaction is processed and I get confirmation that the QSOs are safely in the database. I'm confident they'll figure this out, it's proba

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy (K5MWH)
All of us on this reflector are painfully aware that LoTW has a problem, Additionally we all have seen this discussion go on ad nausium. All of us are concerned about the problem. None of this is new NEWS. So far I have told you nothing new. The complaining goes on & on, and accomplishes

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Charlie Gallo
On 12/15/2012 Donald Greenbaum wrote: > I don't understand the angst over a backlog of processing data during > the end of the year rush. Unless the world really is going to end in > a week like the Mayans predicted. > 73 > Don > N1DG Partly because those of us who have been watching have

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread d...@optonline.net
Might want to consider creating a filter for the thread? Maybe filter out any messages with LoTW in the subject field ;) 73, Mike, K2CD Mike(W5UC) & Kathy (K5MWH) wrote: All of us on this reflector are painfully aware that LoTW has a problem, Additionally we all have seen this discussion

Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
SO, please let me ask; what do the complainers expect to accomplish by continuing to kick this horse? How about getting others involved in *doing something* about the problem? Since the ARRL IT department seems to want to bury its head in the sand and claims a new storage system will magical

RE: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Every transaction-oriented software system has a performance bottleneck that limits its throughput. Eliminating that bottleneck -- either by improving the software or upgrading the hardware -- always reveals the next bottleneck. The ARRL has determined that LotW's throughput is limited by the rat

RE: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-15 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:18 PM To: w...@suddenlink.net Cc: Dx-Chat Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up > SO, please let me ask; what do the complainers expect to accomplish >

RE: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-16 Thread Richard Schweizer
e required cost ... SO PROBLEM SOLVED !! 73, W2CF Richard T. Schweizer 377 Canterbury Dr. Ramsey, NJ 07446 Telephone: (201) 825-4318 > From: wn3...@verizon.net > To: dx-chat@njdxa.org > Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:56:42

Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
No Ryan, the League is not a dictatorship. To answer more generically, and not specifically to you (or just you): However: If you want change, and are not happy with the current situation with the Logbook server... kvetching about it on this reflector will not accomplish anything. And I th

Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up

2012-12-14 Thread Ryan Jairam
That's correct, Ron. You complain about it to your division director, who will speak on your behalf. But there's nothing wrong with discussing it here, IMO. Maybe they DO read things here... I work in web technology for a living, and you know what? Sometimes I do go searching the web for things t