[e-gold-list] initiatory force vs. retaliatory force

2003-10-12 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Danny, You are suggesting that I should be strung up from a lamppost. Indeed. Yet, you have fixated on only the part where you have been strung up from a lamppost, without regard to the reasoning behind your punishment. How is that for advocating use of force against others? There is a diffe

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 02:18 PM, FileMatrix wrote: But in the United States, the thugs outlawed redeeming currency for gold. Patrick, why is this "redeeming" word so important? Can't you just say you *exchange* paper money for gold on the free market? ... I understand what you have in m

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread Robert B.Z.
George, I hope Patrick doesn't mind if I answer this one. Redeemability implies that the issuer of paper has the corresponding amount of gold in stock. This in turn means that the paper is synonymous with gold and that there can be only as much paper as there is gold. Exchange is something compl

[e-gold-list] outside eBay countries

2003-10-12 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 11 Oct 2003 at 1:12, Jim Davidson wrote: > I think educated sellers should not prefer to sell on eBay. > The things we've said about PayPal are necessarily > indictments of eBay since eBay owns PayPal. > > There are really terrible terms of service at eBay. There is > no privacy availa

[e-gold-list] Offshore Tax Haven Auction

2003-10-12 Thread Xgenius LLC
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[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread FileMatrix
> But in the United States, the thugs outlawed redeeming currency for gold. Patrick, why is this "redeeming" word so important? Can't you just say you *exchange* paper money for gold on the free market? Or maybe you're saying it is illegal (now) for people to own gold in USA (so, they can't exchan

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread Robert B.Z.
> Money is not added to the circulation by printing it and throwing it out of > a helicopter over the people's houses. Instead it is being printed and either used by the gov to pay bills (most countries) or loaned to the gov to pay bills with (USA). However, if you look at the requestion costs of

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > A money can have value, just based on its widespread acceptance and a sound > > 'open books' management. > > > What is 'sound open books', please? Robert, It means the people who are managing the currency show the books how many (new) currency they are issuing, and give justification for th

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Patrick, > Danny, in your 9-Oct post you described how "In some places it [money] > somehow evolved from gold towards paper currency in a rather smooth > transition." I would like to hear about those places and times. Probably renaissance Italy is the best example, but again I didn't live in t