Womens space -a necessity for change and development

1998-09-04 Thread bunny
Isn't it strange how many men take offense and cannot seem to accept the need of women for women only space. This need exists and has existed for centuries. Thank God that the internet and the intrusive males on it cannot infiltrate the physical "women only" discussion groups I participate in wi

OT/Bumper stickers of the 90's

1998-09-04 Thread bunny
>> YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE THE VOICES ARE TALKING TO ME >> >> EARTH IS FULL GO HOME >> >> I HAVE THE BODY OF A >>GOD...BUDDHA >> >> THIS WOULD BE REALLY FUNNY IF IT WEREN'T HAPPENING TO ME >> >> SO MANY PEDESTRIANS SO LITTLE TIME >> >> I USED TO BE D

Re: Womens space -a necessity for change and development

1998-09-04 Thread bunny
Isn't it strange how many women take offense and cannot seem to accept the need of men for men only space. This need exists and has existed for centuries. Thank God that the internet and the intrusive females on it cannot infiltrate the physical "men only" discussion groups I participate in with o

While the argument has been raging...

1998-09-04 Thread Danne Polk
This week, the fate of the headwaters forest was decided. 10,000 out of 60,000 acres of ancient Redwood and Douglas Fir have been "saved" (put aside for now). If you want to know more about the decision, check out the Headwaters Action website. http://www.envirolink.org/orgs/headwaters/ Also, a

Re: women only

1998-09-04 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-09-04 04:09:29 EDT, Lori Anne writes: << (The response to Jake's question - "...as long as they keep up reverse discrimination and hatred of men and denying the feminine face of creation.") Women to blame for patriarchy -- yeah right, that's a good one. >> Hi! I wrote

Re: women only - A wakeup call!

1998-09-04 Thread Bertina Miller
Watch out Chris, I as a woman, also mentioned getting a new listserv for women only and I was bashed for doing so! Bertina On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Chris King wrote: > >Anyway, what I am finding really really disheartening is the way that like so > >many other places in patriarchal culture women who

RE: Womens space -a necessity for change and development

1998-09-04 Thread Sarah Martin
I totally agree and I don't think anyone has requested that ecofem become women only. But it is interesting how tense and angry even "enlightened" men become when the need for a space without men is mentioned. "Don't lump me in with them!" they scream... "I'm enlightened - you can't leave me out!"

Re: women only

1998-09-04 Thread bd27594
No, Angela -- actually i am not into the "blame" language at all. I am just pointing out that what is happening on this list is quite reflective of what continually goes on "out there," namely the discussion has turned inot one about those "male-bashing" "man-blaming" feminists. Yet another red

RE: Womens space -a necessity for change and development

1998-09-04 Thread Candi Chruchill
this is completely ridiculous. I am not going to write quite as long as i did last time, because frankly, i have a lot of work to do, but let me just say this analogy totally pretends there is no such thing as a male-dominated America! Men hold the majority of the power, if you call yoursel

Re: women only/go for it!

1998-09-04 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-09-04 11:29:07 EDT, you write: << There are many different paths. >> Hi Lori Anne, Thanks for your reply. I would like to see the bashing regarding men on the list end also - men should stay on the list and for those who have really have a need to have a male/free zone -

Radical Teacher/Commodities

1998-09-04 Thread Ecolady
Forwarded message: I thought this was interesting because it deals with some of the things we have been discussing lately. Angela Radical Teacher The journal "Radical Teacher" is calling for articles on: TEACHING AND ORGANIZING AROUND MATTERS OF CONSUMPTION Although family values and religi

Why Give Birth?

1998-09-04 Thread Omar Ghosn
>Hello, >I am a college student doing my senior study on Child Bearing. >My question to you as a woman or a man, married or unmarried: >Why did you have a child, or why do you plan to? >...and if not, why not? > >Your honest opinions will be greatly appreciated. All replies will be >held under t

Re: feminine balance?

1998-09-04 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-09-03 15:08:06 EDT, r.twine writes: << i've noticed this idea of feminine/masculine 'balance' come up quite a bit recently on the ECOFEM list. >> Hi! Richard for me the word balance means this: regarding the balance of creation as a whole - the scales of creation seem t

Re: women only

1998-09-04 Thread will bason
> Women to blame for patriarchy -- yeah right, that's a good one. > This thought has come into my head over and over today: how blaming somebdy or some other group and avoiding any personal blame or responsability is giving away power. I think its fine for women to have women's only spaces if t

Re Women only

1998-09-04 Thread Joe E. Dees
Date sent: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:16:41 +0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: bunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Re Women only > Will writes- > I think its fine f

Re: While the argument has been raging...

1998-09-04 Thread Kimberly and Brett
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_01BDD83F.307D4FE0 I agree with you Dane. Thanks for the enviro news especially the update on Julia Butterfly. -- > From: Danne Polk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subje

consumerism, community and ecofem

1998-09-04 Thread will bason
It's right that people who want to save this planet from our collective greed and ignorance should not fight or argue over much with other people who want to save this planet from our collective greed and ignorance. Isn't consumerism at the root (or one of the roots) of the problem? Why do we fe

Distracting us

1998-09-04 Thread Candi Chruchill
Thanks so much, several women have said that to me and I am glad to hear it! We've got work to do, so much to organize against/for. Do we really have the time to defend our selves? This whole argument really sharpens my feelings about how distracted we can get when people begin the backlash.