Re: [ECOLOG-L] -- SPAM --Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Yes, but confining "applied" to a separate journal, complete with the damning appellation, does not foster cross-fertilization. WT - Original Message - From: To: ; "Wayne Tyson" Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: -- SPAM --Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Yes, and it doesn't end there. The fertilizer used to increase and narrow the nutrient aspect of the site carrying capacity (to increase productive potential) as well as any irrigation is a direct subsidy, but much of that input is wasted through leaching (including, but not limited to groundwat

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Juan Alvez
Related to this, an esteemed colleague sent an email (below) to another Listserve that literally blew my mind. It reads: "friends Bill Gates has a blog, which I occasionally read. he reviews Vaclav Smils book here: http://mobile.thegatesnotes.com/Books/Energy/Harvesting-the-Biosphere And in midd

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
It's not that it's not regulated, it's just that in our measure of time the regulation is taking place slowly (it's a mere blink, however, in geologic time). We will go the way of all species that have been profoundly "successful" and literally (and "virtually") screwing ourselves into oblivion

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Aaron T. Dossey
Thank you for finally nudging toward the real root of most of our problems - unregulated human population explosion. Is it ethical that the goal of humanity seems to be to ensure that at some point, all carbon atoms on earth are either in the form of human bodies or plastics at the same time?

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Vina and All: Yes, the right kind of integration of crop plants into an existing ecosystem, particularly those that are either indigenous or unlikely to reproduce, yet have their requirements met by the ecosystem with limited displacement of indigenous species' populations (maintaining viable,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Quite so! Careful integration of suitable plants into ecosystems rather than replacing them with "human-assembled" pseudo-systems that require "management" is one way of retaining ecosystem integrity and increasing the usefulness of PART of the ecosystem for one species, the most invasive of a

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Sure, humans are part of the earth's ecosystem, and at some point Homo sapiens will reach a level of consumption that backlashes profoundly enough that the level of degradation will be severe enough, or the crash in population significant enough, that "we" will be reduced to, say, eating nothin

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Lawrence Baker
There is nothing new about ecologists thinking about integration of humans into ecosystems. In the paper that defined "ecosystems", Arthur Tansley (1935) wrote: “Ecology must be applied to to conditions brought about by human activities. The ‘natural’ entities and their anthropogenic derivatives

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
I have been doing self-sufficient (no irrigation, no fertilizer, no "weed control," or other external inputs) since 1972 (retired from business in 2000), and I do not consider my work to be "human-assembled." In fact, I don't think anybody actually DOES ecosystem restoration, but we can set up c

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Neahga Leonard
At some point we run up against another interesting question and divide when discussing the issue of human assembled ecosystems and invasive vs native species. Until relatively recently much of the agriculture around the world was more similar to the edible landscape/forest gardening model than ou

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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Esat Atikkan
This has been an extremely interesting thread. Now if we could just This has been an extremely interesting thread. Now if we could just admit that humans are part of ecology/ecosystem and their deeds and actions are 'natural', much of the discord may evaporate. Let us leave Christian (Also Ancie

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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Erin Cleere
So you pick feral cats over, for example, cattle? Cattle that negatively impact soil and water quality and increase erosion, which in turn negatively affect insects and bird communities (to name just a few impacts). Cattle that introduced brucellosis, which spread amongst countless wildlife? We

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread frah...@yahoo.com
I believe that almost everybody on this list is aware Dear Thomas, I believe that almost everybody on this list is aware that "Even highly diverse, apparently sustainable agricultural systems – like the forest gardens of lowland Samoa – wind up displacing/destroying much biodiversity when hum