Re: How can I analyze split-design by SPSS v9.0?

2000-09-06 Thread Joe Ward
Anuvat -- Here comes my "standard" comment! 1. State your research question(s) in "natural language". 2. Create a model that enables you to answer the "natural language" questions that YOU WANT. 3. Impose restrictions on YOUR MODEL that answers YOUR questions of interest. 4. Use the computer

How can I analyze split-design by SPSS v9.0?

2000-09-06 Thread Anuvat Jangchud
I would like to use SPSS v.9.0 for SPLIT Design anlysis. Could you help me out? = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Gatliffe
Rich Ulrich wrote: > An example in English: I think this underlies the delicacy needed in > the control of a nuclear power plant (in the most common U.S. design). Actually, once a power reactor has been brought slowly but correctly into the normal operating condition, it doesn't really require

Re: Any interest in a real problem?

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Gatliffe
Tony Rizzo wrote: > > > The problem is that managers and executives have no practical > understanding of variation or of methods for managing it. > > > -- > Tony Rizzo > CEO > The Product Development Institute, Inc In my experience you are not talking about the problem but about a symptom of

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Eric Zivot
A good example in regression is when one of the independent (explanatory) variables is measured with error. For example, suppose the true relation is y = xb+e where the estimated relation is y = x*b + e and x* = x + v where v represents random measurement error. Then the least

Re: Minitab vs. JMP

2000-09-06 Thread Ken
If you've never seen the Minitab 13 survival/reliability analysis tools available I strongly recommend you do so (via the downloadable demo at www.minitab.com). Both nonparametric and parametric (Normal, Lognormal, Smallest Extreme Value, Weibull, Exponential, Logistic, Loglogistic). The nonparam

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Vadim Marmer
here is the simplest example of inconsistent statistcs you can imagine: let X1, X2, ..., Xn be a sample of iid random variables with mean M. lets consider the following statistic t for M: t=x1 it's clearly inconsistent because it does not change at all as n grows. (and of course it`s unbiase

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Gautam Sethi
Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : dennis roberts wrote: :> :> i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency : Of course it's bias... but bias *does* imply inconsistency. It's a : simple implication between two important concepts, so makes a

generating bilinear time series

2000-09-06 Thread Lonnie Hamm
I want to generate a bilinear time series of the form y(t)=B*y(t-2)*e(t-1)+e(t) where B is a constant and e~N(0,1). Is it customary to set y(0)=y(-1)=0 to begin the series. = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and rem

standard error of the stimate: regression

2000-09-06 Thread Jineshwar Singh
I am aware that the standard error of the estimate (regression line) cannot be used as an absolute measure of a single model utility. Is there any guideline about its value? The ratio of standard error of the estimate and the average of y values does help to decide when we evaluate more than one m

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:32:54 -0400, Art Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements > follow a Cauchy distribution? > > "Anon." wrote: > < snip, re: "not consistent" estimators > > > How about the universal counterexample, the

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Art Kendall wrote: > > would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements > follow a Cauchy distribution? Put a laser pointer on the axis of a roulette wheel and spin it. The position of the light-spot on the wall will be Cauchy distributed. -Robert Da

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Art Kendall
would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements follow a Cauchy distribution? "Anon." wrote: > Chuck Cleland wrote: > > > > Hello: > > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > > whose value approaches the population value as the sample

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Bill Jefferys
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Art Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: #would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements #follow a Cauchy distribution? Set up an infinite linear detector along the x-axis. This detector can detect the position of an incoming photon. Let

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
dennis roberts wrote: > > i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency Of course it's bias... but bias *does* imply inconsistency. It's a simple implication between two important concepts, so makes a good point to mention. -Robert Dawson ==

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread dennis roberts
i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency ... At 12:18 PM 9/6/00 -0300, Robert J. MacG. Dawson wrote: > More seriously, using the sample median as a robust estimator of the >population mean is consistent if the population is symmetric, but >inconsistent

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Anon.
Chuck Cleland wrote: > > Hello: > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > whose value approaches the population value as the sample size > increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ > consistent. The best examples would be statistics that

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Chuck Cleland wrote: > > Hello: > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > whose value approaches the population value as the sample size > increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ > consistent. The best examples would be statistics tha

consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Chuck Cleland
Hello: If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one whose value approaches the population value as the sample size increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ consistent. The best examples would be statistics that are not computationally complex an

Re: Minitab vs. JMP

2000-09-06 Thread Vincent Vinh-Hung
I've received email, the performance problem with Survival analysis was fixed in JMP version 4.0.2 a patch exists to move from 4.0.0 to 4.0.2 John Sall benchmarked 6 groups 162,000 rows, version 4.0.2 ran all by groups in 7 seconds total. Previously when I ran JMP 3.2, the total time (without time