Are parametric assumptions importat ?

2001-10-12 Thread Voltolini
Hi, I am Biologist preparing a class on experiments in ecology including a short and simple text about how to use and to choose the most commom statistical tests (chi-square, t tests, ANOVA, correlation and regression). I am planning to include the idea that testing the assumptions for

Re: Are parametric assumptions importat ?

2001-10-12 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Voltolini wrote: Hi, I am Biologist preparing a class on experiments in ecology including a short and simple text about how to use and to choose the most commom statistical tests (chi-square, t tests, ANOVA, correlation and regression). I am planning to include the idea that testing the

Re: Are parametric assumptions importat ?

2001-10-12 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 12:59 PM 10/12/01 -0300, you wrote: While consulting people from depts of statistics about this, a few of them were arguing that these assumption testing are just a legend and that there is no problem in not respecting them ! note: you should NOT respect any stat expert who says that there

Re: Are parametric assumptions importat ?

2001-10-12 Thread Lise DeShea
Re robustness of the between-subjects ANOVA, I obtained permission from Dr. Rand Wilcox to copy three pages from his book, New Statistical Procedures for the Social Sciences, and place them on a webpage for my students. He cites research showing that with four groups of 50 observations each and

RE: Are parametric assumptions importat ?

2001-10-12 Thread Wuensch, Karl L
Lise advised I tell my students that the ANOVA is not robust to violation of the equal variances assumption, but that it's a stupid statistic anyway. All it can say is either, These means are may be nearly equal, or There's a difference somewhere among these means, but I can't tell you

Re: Are parametric assumptions importat ?

2001-10-12 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 01:44 PM 10/12/01 -0400, Lise DeShea wrote: I tell my students that the ANOVA is not robust to violation of the equal variances assumption, but that it's a stupid statistic anyway. All it can say is either, These means are equal, or There's a difference somewhere among these means, but I

Mean and Standard Deviation

2001-10-12 Thread Edward Dreyer
A colleague of mine - not a subscriber to this helpful list - asked me if it is possible for the standard deviation to be larger than the mean. If so, under what conditions? At first blush I do not think so - but then I believe I have seen some research results in which standard

Final Exam story

2001-10-12 Thread Dubinse
I had promised a colleague a story that illustrates probability and now I forgot how to solve it formally. The story is about six students who go off on a trip and get drunk the weekend before their statistics final. They return a few days late and beg for a second chance to take the final

RE: Mean and Standard Deviation

2001-10-12 Thread Simon, Steve, PhD
Title: RE: Mean and Standard Deviation Edward Dreyer writes: A colleague of mine - not a subscriber to this helpful list - asked me if it is possible for the standard deviation to be larger than the mean. If so, under what conditions? At first blush I do not think so - but then I

Re: Mean and Standard Deviation

2001-10-12 Thread dennis roberts
At 04:32 PM 10/12/01 -0500, you wrote: A colleague of mine - not a subscriber to this helpful list - asked me if it is possible for the standard deviation to be larger than the mean. If so, under what conditions? what about z scores??? mean = 0 and sd = 1 At first blush I do not think so

Re: Mean and Standard Deviation

2001-10-12 Thread Ken Beath
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Edward Dreyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A colleague of mine - not a subscriber to this helpful list - asked me if it is possible for the standard deviation to be larger than the mean. If so, under what conditions? Easily. Any highly skewed distribution will

RE: Mean and Standard Deviation

2001-10-12 Thread Dale Glaser
Title: RE: Mean and Standard Deviation Well, what about the standard normal distribution: N(0,1)? Dale N. Glaser, Ph.D. Pacific Science Engineering Group 6310 Greenwich Drive; Suite 200 San Diego, CA 92122 Phone: (858) 535-1661 Fax: (858) 535-1665 http://www.pacific-science.com