Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-29 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects ...And it extends even further. Many of us who toil in areas outside of academia have our work and productivity "supervised" by managers or directors who have little or no training in statistics, beyond a survey c

Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-29 Thread Bob Hayden
- Forwarded message from Frank E Harrell Jr - I'd like to make a somewhat related point. There are many educational tools that I've found have a great effect on non-statisticians. One if these is to take one of their datasets, randomly permute the column of Y-values, go through their

RE: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-28 Thread Silvert, Henry
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 7:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects ...And it extends even further. Many of us who toil in areas outside of academia have our work and productivity "supervis

Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-28 Thread Debasmit Mohanty
I have been following the discussion on Data Mining blooper for a while. Being a first year graduate student in statistics, my comments on this issue might sound premature. Nevertheless, I would put forward my observations. What I have learnt so far from my interaction with the statisticians

Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects (fwd)

2000-04-28 Thread Bob Hayden
- Forwarded message from Debasmit Mohanty - I think, now is the time when we have to decide "Do we accept DATA MINING as a part of statistics or do we keep neglecting this field as before". I am sure there would be few statistics students like me who feel that Data Mining is very much

Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-26 Thread Herman Rubin
In article 002601bfaf29$cfbaa9a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED], David A. Heiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: T.S. Lim Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: Data Mining blooper While hunting for URLs for

Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-26 Thread dennis roberts
At 07:57 AM 4/26/00 -0500, Herman Rubin wrote: It does not surprise me one bit. The typical statistics course teaches statistical methods and pronouncements, with no attempt to achieve understanding. snip of more this is something i happen to agree with herman about ... but, it is a

Re: Data Mining blooper and Related Subjects

2000-04-25 Thread David A. Heiser
- Original Message - From: T.S. Lim Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: Data Mining blooper While hunting for URLs for KDCentral.com, I encountered several misleading statements about Statistics made by Data Mining