bootstrap hypothesis testing

2001-08-18 Thread Joseph Horton
Hi: I am new to the list and have a question about bootstrap hypothesis testing. I am testing the equality of two means according to Algorithm 16.2 in An Introduction to the Bootstrap by Efron and Tibshirani (1993). They define the estimated ASL as #{t(x*b) >= tobs}/B. It seems to me that t

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-15 Thread dennis roberts
At 02:52 PM 2/15/01 -0600, Paul R Swank wrote: >I remember a question from some stat book about a situation where there >were 8 members of a group, three men and five women (or the reverse, I >can't remember >which) and on some issue the vote was five to three with all five women >voting for. T

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-15 Thread Paul R Swank
I remember a question from some stat book about a situation where there were 8 members of a group, three men and five women (or the reverse, I can't remember which) and on some issue the vote was five to three with all five women voting for. The question was "How likely was this event to occur by c

Re: Re : Hypothesis testing

2000-11-23 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Jay Warner wrote in part: > And when you have made your way through it, send me an email, telling me > how well it worked for you - that's your 'cost' for using it! Since you asked the entire Edstat list for advice, it would be courteous to copy that e-mail to the list.

Re : Hypothesis testing

2000-11-23 Thread Jay Warner
"sunny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Subject: Re : Hypothesis testing I need help with the following hypothesis testing question : "The data processing department at a large company has installed new LCD monitors to replace the colour monitors used previously. The 95 operato

Re: Re : Hypothesis testing

2000-11-23 Thread Alan McLean
The answer to 1) is 'one'. Alan sunny wrote: > > I need help with the following hypothesis testing question : > > "The data processing department at a large company has installed new LCD > monitors to replace the colour monitors used previously. The 95 oper

Re: Re : Hypothesis testing

2000-11-23 Thread RCKnodt
Were these homework or class problems for you to solve? If so, repeat the post but show what you have done to try to solve the problems. Dr. Robert C. Knodt 7121 Harbor View Drive Leesburg, FL 34788 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The law of gravity says no fair jumping up without coming down."

Re : Hypothesis testing

2000-11-23 Thread sunny
I need help with the following hypothesis testing question : "The data processing department at a large company has installed new LCD monitors to replace the colour monitors used previously. The 95 operators trained to use the new monitors averaged 7.2 hours before achieving a satisfactory

Hypothesis testing

2000-10-17 Thread Alan McLean
Periodically there is a burst of discussion of hypothesis testing on this list, often with quite a lot of verbal pyrotechnics. With the current discussion going on, it seems an appropriate time to comment that a few weeks ago I sent out a call for people interested in presenting papers on

ICOTS6 - Hypothesis testing

2000-09-17 Thread Alan McLean
tails about the South African arrangements at <http://icots.itikzn.co.za/>. Topic 3 is 'Statistics Education at the Post Secondary Level' and within that, Session 3M is 'Hypothesis Testing'. I am the Session Organiser for this session. The session abstract is A more com

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-20 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:48:38 +0100, "P.G.Hamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: < snip, interesting stuff about, proper age-adjusted life-tables, with proper adjustment of base-line Ns, would not show an increase in competing causes of death > > BTW an even greater problem in animal testing seems to

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-20 Thread P.G.Hamer
Jerry Dallal wrote: > As Tukey has pointed out, the null hypothesis of no effect > is not that we think there is no effect, but we are uncertain > of the direction. > > I wish I knew more about Delany and its application. > One problem, pointed out by David Salsburg, is that a > substances that e

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-18 Thread Jerry Dallal
Herman Rubin wrote: > > The truth myth is highly persistent. We have the Delaney > Clause, which requires the FDA to ban any additive "which > has been found to cause cancer in humans or animals". > Now what does this mean? It is unlikely that anything > does not affect the cancer rate. > > We

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-14 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <634D48D1362BD311AC7400508B1047DA912E82@EXCHANGE>, Silvert, Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I would go a little further. It is the perpetuation of the idea that there >is some truth out there that has to be found that makes statistics and the >sciences so alienating to mopst people. W

RE: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-14 Thread Silvert, Henry
MAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2 > > > Truth has nothing to do with it. We contruct stories of how the universe > operates - > > we call these stories 'theories' or 'models'. Significance testing is > one > w

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread David A. Heiser
- Original Message - From: Michael Granaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: EDSTAT list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2 > In addition to defining the variables some areas do a better job of > defi

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread David A. Heiser
> Truth has nothing to do with it. We contruct stories of how the universe operates - > we call these stories 'theories' or 'models'. Significance testing is one way in > which we choose between stories as to which is (probably) more useful in a > specified context. -- > Alan McLean ([EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread Alan McLean
Spot on, Michael. Michael Granaas wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, dennis roberts wrote: > > > At 10:23 AM 4/13/00 -0500, Michael Granaas wrote: > > > > >In addition to defining the variables some areas do a better job of > > >defining and therefore testing their models. The ag example is one wher

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread Alan McLean
erms of the impacts of these variables on things) ... but, this is > precisely what many have been arguing on the list about that hypothesis > testing ... statistical significance testing that is ... is in NO position > to help you assert 'the truth' ... truth is a metaphysical

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread Alan McLean
Hi Michael, This sounds to me like lousy experimental design. Surely the purpose of the experiment is to distinguish between competing theoretical models? Michael Granaas wrote: > But in some areas in psychology you will have a situation where many > theoretical perspectives predict the same ou

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread Michael Granaas
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, dennis roberts wrote: > At 10:23 AM 4/13/00 -0500, Michael Granaas wrote: > > >In addition to defining the variables some areas do a better job of > >defining and therefore testing their models. The ag example is one where > >not only the variables are relatively clear so a

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread dennis roberts
At 10:23 AM 4/13/00 -0500, Michael Granaas wrote: >In addition to defining the variables some areas do a better job of >defining and therefore testing their models. The ag example is one where >not only the variables are relatively clear so are the models. That is >there is one highly plausible

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread dennis roberts
(in terms of the impacts of these variables on things) ... but, this is precisely what many have been arguing on the list about that hypothesis testing ... statistical significance testing that is ... is in NO position to help you assert 'the truth' ... truth is a metaphysical notion .

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread Michael Granaas
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Alan McLean wrote: > Some more comments on hypothesis testing: > > My impression of the ‘hypothesis test controversy’, which seems to exist > primarily in the areas of psychology, education and the like is that it > is at least partly a consequence of the s

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-13 Thread Art Kendall
us" "everything else being equal" that is part of a true experiment. We cannot randomly assign people to ethnic categories. There can be a plethora of plausible rival hypotheses. see http://www.personnelselection.com/adverse.impact.htm Alan McLean wrote: > Some more comme

Re: Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-12 Thread dennis roberts
At 09:30 AM 4/13/00 +1000, Alan McLean wrote: >In the ‘soft’ sciences it is easy enough to identify a characteristic of >interest ­ alan makes good points as usual ... but i totally object to the term 'soft' sciences ... what does soft imply? that the science is bad ... or, that merely that va

Hypothesis testing and magic - episode 2

2000-04-12 Thread Alan McLean
Some more comments on hypothesis testing: My impression of the ‘hypothesis test controversy’, which seems to exist primarily in the areas of psychology, education and the like (this is coming from someone who has been involved in education for all my working life, but with a scientific

RE: Hypothesis testing and magic

2000-04-12 Thread Silvert, Henry
: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:47 PM > To: EDSTAT list > Subject: Hypothesis testing and magic > > I have been reading all the back and forth about hypothesis testing with > some degree of fascination. It's a topic of particular interest to me - > I presented a paper ca

Hypothesis testing and magic

2000-04-11 Thread Alan McLean
I have been reading all the back and forth about hypothesis testing with some degree of fascination. It's a topic of particular interest to me - I presented a paper called 'Hypothesis testing and the Westminster System' at the ISI conference in Helsinki last year. What I find fas

Re: Hypothesis testing

2000-03-27 Thread lbadiella
You may search for bioequivalence tests or equivalence test. Here is a little introduction Typically, when you compare two means, you want to show that the means are different. Hence, your goal is to disprove the null hypothesis of equality. However, in the case of equivalence, you are inter

Re: Hypothesis testing

2000-03-27 Thread Jeff Li
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --CBCC9428240C3EF7FCA02435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First: H0: mean < mean+sv; H1: mean >mean+sv; You can finish it by one side hyothesis testing Second: H0: mean > mean-sv; H1: mean The

Hypothesis testing

2000-03-27 Thread Ng Tsz Wang
The normal hyothesis testing assumes the following... H0: mean = mean1; H1: mean != mean1; Is there any one who come across how to do hyothesis testing of the following nature? Is there any books that I can refer to? H0: |mean1| > mean + sv; H1: mean + sv > mean1 > mean - sv; where sv = a smal

Re: A question on hypothesis testing wrt a factor in a GLM model.

2000-03-07 Thread Paul Y. Peng
Thank you for your reply, the only one I have got so far. "Donald F. Burrill" wrote: > > Looks to me like a simple typo. The null hypothesis is > H0: beta1 = beta2 = 0 > and I would attribute the "+" sign to a typing error ("+" is a shifted > "=" on most keyboards). You may be right

Re: A question on hypothesis testing wrt a factor in a GLM model.

2000-03-05 Thread Donald F. Burrill
Looks to me like a simple typo. The null hypothesis is H0: beta1 = beta2 = 0 and I would attribute the "+" sign to a typing error ("+" is a shifted "=" on most keyboards). While the _interpretation_ of non-zero estimates of the betas (should H0 be rejected) depends on the spec

A question on hypothesis testing wrt a factor in a GLM model.

2000-03-04 Thread Paul Y. Peng
Suppose that I have a factor with three levels A, B, and C. If it is used in a GLM model as a covariate, I will have two parameter beta1 and beta2 (assuming they are for level B and C). To test a statement "Any of the last two levels (either level B or level C) has a different effect on the respon