Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-12 Thread Glen Barnett
Art Kendall wrote: > > would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements > follow a Cauchy distribution? > Here's a fairly simple situation. Join two laser pointers back to back, and mount them on some freely rotating assembly (like a roulette wheel or something simi

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-12 Thread Glen Barnett
Chuck Cleland wrote: > > Hello: > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > whose value approaches the population value as the sample size > increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ > consistent. The best examples would

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-11 Thread Tom Gatliffe
Rich Ulrich wrote: > On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 02:20:27 GMT, Thomas Gatliffe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rich Ulrich wrote: > > > > > An example in English: I think this underlies the delicacy needed in > > > the control of a nuclear power plant (in the most common U.S. design). > > > Actuall

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-10 Thread R. Martin
Rich Ulrich wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 02:20:27 GMT, Thomas Gatliffe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rich Ulrich wrote: > > > > > An example in English: I think this underlies the delicacy needed in > > > the control of a nuclear power plant (in the most common U.S. design). > > > Actua

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-10 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 02:20:27 GMT, Thomas Gatliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rich Ulrich wrote: > > > An example in English: I think this underlies the delicacy needed in > > the control of a nuclear power plant (in the most common U.S. design). > Actually, once a power reactor has been brou

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-07 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Gautam Sethi wrote: > > Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > : dennis roberts wrote: > :> > :> i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency > > : Of course it's bias... but bias *does* imply inconsistency. It's a > : simple implication bet

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Gatliffe
Rich Ulrich wrote: > An example in English: I think this underlies the delicacy needed in > the control of a nuclear power plant (in the most common U.S. design). Actually, once a power reactor has been brought slowly but correctly into the normal operating condition, it doesn't really require

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Eric Zivot
least squres estimate of b using the mismeasured data x* is biased and inconsistent. "Robert J. MacG. Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Chuck Cleland wrote: > > > > Hello: > > If I understa

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Vadim Marmer
it`s unbiased stat) I think any audience can get it :) On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Chuck Cleland wrote: > Hello: > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > whose value approaches the population value as the sample size > increases. I am looking for examples of st

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Gautam Sethi
Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : dennis roberts wrote: :> :> i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency : Of course it's bias... but bias *does* imply inconsistency. It's a : simple implication between two important concepts, so makes a

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:32:54 -0400, Art Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements > follow a Cauchy distribution? > > "Anon." wrote: > < snip, re: "not consistent" estimators > > > How about the universal counterexample, the

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Art Kendall wrote: > > would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements > follow a Cauchy distribution? Put a laser pointer on the axis of a roulette wheel and spin it. The position of the light-spot on the wall will be Cauchy distributed. -Robert Da

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Art Kendall
would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements follow a Cauchy distribution? "Anon." wrote: > Chuck Cleland wrote: > > > > Hello: > > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > > whose value approach

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Bill Jefferys
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Art Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: #would someone name some physical or social phenomena where the measurements #follow a Cauchy distribution? Set up an infinite linear detector along the x-axis. This detector can detect the position of an incoming photon. Let

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
dennis roberts wrote: > > i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency Of course it's bias... but bias *does* imply inconsistency. It's a simple implication between two important concepts, so makes a good point to mention. -Robert Dawson ==

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread dennis roberts
i would say that what bob has indicated below is BIAS ... not consistency ... At 12:18 PM 9/6/00 -0300, Robert J. MacG. Dawson wrote: > More seriously, using the sample median as a robust estimator of the >population mean is consistent if the population is symmetric, but >inconsistent

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Anon.
Chuck Cleland wrote: > > Hello: > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > whose value approaches the population value as the sample size > increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ > consistent. The best examples would

Re: consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Chuck Cleland wrote: > > Hello: > If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one > whose value approaches the population value as the sample size > increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ > consistent. The best examples w

consistent statistic

2000-09-06 Thread Chuck Cleland
Hello: If I understand the concept correctly, a consistent statistic is one whose value approaches the population value as the sample size increases. I am looking for examples of statistics that are _not_ consistent. The best examples would be statistics that are not computationally complex