for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-19 Thread jeff rasmussen
Voltolini wrote: > Hi, I am biologist teaching statistics for biologists and I am > > very interested in to learn more about teaching strategies > > when the students hate numbers (like biologists!). > > One thing I recently did was divide the class into 6 groups of ~5 each. Each gro

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Bernhardt
jeff rasmussen said on 9/19/01 11:36 AM: >Voltolini wrote: > >> Hi, I am biologist teaching statistics for biologists and I am >> >> very interested in to learn more about teaching strategies >> >> when the students hate numbers (like biologists!). >> >> > One thing I recently did was

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-21 Thread Jerry Dallal
I wrote: > Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors > in bags of M&Ms? because I surely didn't, but perhaps I should. Since the % blues differ among plain and peanut (10 v 30, says WBW) there's probably a good medical/epidemiology exercise to be had by relabeling plai

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-21 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 06:14 PM 9/21/01 +, Jerry Dallal wrote: >I wrote: > > > Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors > > in bags of M&Ms? > >because I surely didn't, but perhaps I should. Since the % blues >differ among plain and peanut (10 v 30, says WBW) there's probably a >good me

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-21 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Jerry Dallal wrote: > > > You can have them count the colors of candies in bags of M&Ms. The M&M > > web site has the expected proportions published so they can do a > > ChiSquare test against those proportions. > > Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors > in bags o

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-20 Thread Rob MacTurk
Would you happen to have the exact location for the expected proportions of M&M colors? I went to the M&M site and couldn't seem to locate it. Rob MacTurk "Paul Bernhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > You can have them count the colors of

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-20 Thread Jerry Dallal
> You can have them count the colors of candies in bags of M&Ms. The M&M > web site has the expected proportions published so they can do a > ChiSquare test against those proportions. Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors in bags of M&Ms? > Do a class of brainstorm

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-20 Thread William B. Ware
>From an old post... Plain Peanut Red 20% 10% Orange 10% 10% Yellow 20% 20% Green 10% 10% Blue10% 30% Brown 30% 20% WBW ___

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-23 Thread Jerry Dallal
Dennis Roberts wrote: > > At 06:14 PM 9/21/01 +, Jerry Dallal wrote: > >I wrote: > > > > > Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors > > > in bags of M&Ms? > > > >because I surely didn't, but perhaps I should. Since the % blues > >differ among plain and peanut (10 v

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-18 Thread Stan Brown
Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >I don't feel M&M's are any more trivial to introduce the concepts than >the usual "chips in an urn" or "balls from a jar". Using M&Ms has one huge pedagogical advantage: most people learn better when more of their senses are engaged. I would ex

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-19 Thread Warren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Brown) wrote in message As it happens, we're doing sample variability on 30 October, one day > before Hallowe'en, so I think the lesson will really engage the > students. What great timing! In class, we count the "blue" M's. One of the students, an OB-GYN fellow, wen

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-19 Thread Jerry Dallal
Warren wrote: > > I don't feel M&M's are any more trivial to introduce the concepts than > the usual "chips in an urn" or "balls from a jar". And I don't agree > that using M&Ms is trivial or juvenile. My class has basic science > grad students, M.D.s, Health professionals of all types and they

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-19 Thread Stan Brown
Jerry Dallal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: > When I stated I don't care for M&Ms, it's because I >don't care about M&Ms as M&Ms. If the extent of the use of >statistical methods is to study the proportions of different colored >M&Ms (as the one application in a theory course, for exa

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-16 Thread Jay Warner
Let's go back to the problem of developing a modicum of interest on the part of students with pre dispositions against numerical activities (i.e., statistics, in their humble opinions) IN that respect, I would prefer to ask a question which the students could reasonably expect an interest in, _an

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-16 Thread Stan Brown
(long discussion of M&M's snipped) One nice feature of using M&Ms: At this time of year you can easily find both large undivided bags (as big as 2 pounds, .9 kg) and bags containing quite a few "fun size" small bags (about 1/2 oz or 15 g). The "fun size" should nicely illustrate the larger var

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-17 Thread Warren
I don't feel M&M's are any more trivial to introduce the concepts than the usual "chips in an urn" or "balls from a jar". And I don't agree that using M&Ms is trivial or juvenile. My class has basic science grad students, M.D.s, Health professionals of all types and they do seem to get something