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Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Milo Schield
I think we are getting close to closure here. "Irving Scheffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 02:12:46 GMT, "Milo Schield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >But in most of your examples MORE is being claimed. In most cases

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Irving Scheffe
In responding to Rich, I'll intersperse selected comments with selected portions of his text and append his entire post below. To begin with, Rich doesn't way he wants to do a significance test. He just knows he likes doing such a test. To wit: >Given group A and group B, I can do a t-test. Or

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Irving Scheffe
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 02:12:46 GMT, "Milo Schield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >But in most of your examples MORE is being claimed. In most cases, the >claim includes an inference. Once the claim involves an inference, then a >statistical test may be relevant. > >In one case, the claim was discr

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Milo Schield
I think we are getting close to closure here. "Irving Scheffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 02:12:46 GMT, "Milo Schield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >But in most of your examples MORE is being claimed. In most cases

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Milo Schield
So far, so good. We agree that if we are just compared facts of each case, then there is no generalization, no inference and no statistical tests. We agree that one can hypothesize anything, presume a null hypothesis, do a re-randomization and see if what actually happened is statistically signi

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Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Irving Scheffe
Milo: Sure, although I don't see how that is relevant to the MIT situation, which attributed the current status of women there to discrimination, based on an undisclosed methodology. More generally, one CAN indeed do randomization tests on similar data even though there is no inference toward

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Rich Ulrich
I am going to try to stick to the statistics-related parts, in replying to Jim Steiger. With a fake user-name, JS wrote on Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:34:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Irving Scheffe): JS > "Rich: "To be blunt, although your comments in this forum are often valuable, you fell far short

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism & statistical bunk

2001-02-18 Thread Milo Schield
Jim has consistently maintained three claims/arguments: 1. we are not trying to generalize from a small group of people to a larger population. 2. No inference is involved (if we are not generalizing) 3. Using statsitical tests is meaningless (since no inference is involved). I agree with his 1

Re: Chicago Tribune Nation World -- BUSH OFFICIAL TO DECIDE CENSUS SAMPLING ISSUE

2001-02-18 Thread Dale Berger
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Re: credit risk analysis

2001-02-18 Thread outlier
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Quotes from J. W. Tukey

2001-02-18 Thread Jan Ljung
Does anyone recall the complete quote that Tukey once made about "...working less on theorems and more on practical problems"? At least I believe that it was Tukey. --Virgil = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and re