Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-04 Thread J. Williams
Mr. Ulrich complains my 91 year-old deceased mother's concept of her right to smoke is "provocative to me."Wow! Either he has too much time on his hands or some really serious problems that can't be solved through a statistics newsgroup. How my dead mother's attitude toward smoking created

Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-03 Thread Jerrold Zar
>>> Actually, the word is "unalienable." reg - Original Message - From: Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: cigs & figs > - in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday - > > On M

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2001-07-03 Thread Reg Jordan
Actually, the word is "unalienable." reg - Original Message - From: Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: cigs & figs > - in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday - > > On Mon,

Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-03 Thread Rich Ulrich
- in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday - On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:49:47 GMT, mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com (J. Williams) wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:37:48 -0400, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >What rights are denied to smokers? JW > > Many smokers, including m

Re: cigs & figs

2001-06-28 Thread Thom Baguley
"Jackson,P" wrote: > > The thing is, of course, in the case of the car accident survivors etc, in > each of those individual cases, we can usually gain some insight into what > contributed to the survival. It would be very interesting to similarly > discover the basis of the long lives of the ol

RE: cigs & figs

2001-06-27 Thread Jackson,P
. > -Original Message- > From: Thom Baguley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 26 June 2001 12:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cigs & figs > > > "J. Williams" wrote: > > She maintained, in spite of the Surgeon General's report and other

Re: cigs & figs

2001-06-26 Thread Thom Baguley
"J. Williams" wrote: > She maintained, in spite of the Surgeon General's report and other > studies I quoted, that smoking doesn't "cause" cancer or heart > disease. Her proof was she and her sister (my aunt) both lived to be > over 90 and were chain smokers. She insisted there are other factors

Re: cigs & figs

2001-06-25 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - re: some outstandingly confused thinking. Or writing. >On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:25:31 GMT, mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com >(J. Williams) wrote: >[ snip; Slate reference, etcetera ] >> ... My mother was 9

Re: cigs & figs

2001-06-25 Thread J. Williams
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:37:48 -0400, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What rights are denied to smokers? Many smokers, including my late mother, feel being unable to smoke on a commerical aircraft, sit anywhere in a restaurant, etc. were violation of her "rights." I don't agree as a no

Re: cigs & figs

2001-06-24 Thread Rich Ulrich
- re: some outstandingly confused thinking. Or writing. On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:25:31 GMT, mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com (J. Williams) wrote: [ snip; Slate reference, etcetera ] > ... My mother was 91 years > old when she died a year ago and chain smoked since her college da

Re: cigs & figs

2001-06-23 Thread J. Williams
On 17 Jun 2001 14:47:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (EugeneGall) wrote: >On Slate, there is quite a good discussion of the meaning and probabilistic >basis of the statement that 1 in 3 teen smokers will die of cancer. It is >written by a math prof and it is one of the most effective lay discussions I

cigs & figs

2001-06-17 Thread EugeneGall
On Slate, there is quite a good discussion of the meaning and probabilistic basis of the statement that 1 in 3 teen smokers will die of cancer. It is written by a math prof and it is one of the most effective lay discussions I've seen of the use of probabilities in describing health risks. http: