Re: [Edu-sig] Monkeys! (was turtles)

2006-03-04 Thread kirby urner
I was thinking (no experience to back this up, unfortunately) that by starting from day one to use the new style, it would be much easier to introduce inheritance. That's what I plan to do in rur-ple lessons. (With a note somewhere pointing out the existence of old style classes.) André

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes

2006-03-04 Thread kirby urner
Any kind of comments would be appreciated, especially as I am thinking of writing a rur-ple lesson using this approach :-) André I really like this kind of thing André. One thing I like is the visual imagination is engaged (avenues, obstacles) and yet the code and

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes

2006-03-04 Thread Andre Roberge
On 3/4/06, kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like this kind of thing André. :-) One thing I like is the visual imagination is engaged (avenues, obstacles) and yet the code and evaluation loop are entirely lexical. This is more like reading a book (without pictures even), which

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes

2006-03-04 Thread Arthur
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kirby urner Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:18 AM To: Andre Roberge Cc: edu-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes Any kind of comments would be appreciated, especially as I

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes

2006-03-04 Thread Arthur
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Roberge A long time ago, Kirby suggested to me (on this list I believe - I can't trace the post right now) that perhaps I should use rur-ple's code itself as an example to use. If it

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes

2006-03-04 Thread Andre Roberge
On 3/4/06, kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Too much talk today, on adult math teacher lists, is about how the kids today are dumber and/or less qualified than we were or are. This is all a prelude / setup for not turning over significant responsibility to younger people. Because

[Edu-sig] wxPython and COM Query

2006-03-04 Thread Chuck Allison
Hello All, I need to get up to speed on wxPython and was wondering if you could recommend the best resources for the task. Thanks! PS - When Mark Hammond's Windows stuff came out for 2.4, it became clear that the COM stuff was buggy. Does anyone know if that has been fixed? Thanks

Re: [Edu-sig] wxPython and COM Query

2006-03-04 Thread Andre Roberge
On 3/4/06, Chuck Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I need to get up to speed on wxPython and was wondering if you could recommend the best resources for the task. Thanks! Perhaps not as your first step, but I would highly recommend that you have a look at the wxPython demo. I

Re: [Edu-sig] wxPython and COM Query

2006-03-04 Thread Scott David Daniels
Andre Roberge wrote: There's a new book that will be coming out soon which I definitely intend to buy: http://www.manning.com/books/rappin The cost of shipping to Canada is such that I will wait for it to be available through other channels (Chapter's or Amazon). However, from the link

Re: [Edu-sig] wxPython and COM Query

2006-03-04 Thread Chuck Allison
Hello Andre, Thanks. I'll get the e-book from manning right now. Saturday, March 4, 2006, 10:19:12 AM, you wrote: AR On 3/4/06, Chuck Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I need to get up to speed on wxPython and was wondering if you could recommend the best resources for the

Re: [Edu-sig] suggestions about turtle.py

2006-03-04 Thread Scott David Daniels
Just for fun I stole some of the turtle code, added docstrings, used complex as position format, and made a small (but not entirely minimal) turtle class. I figured this might do as a straw-man for Myrtle the Minimal Turtle. I do like Christian Mascher's idea of making a turtle with a contained

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes

2006-03-04 Thread kirby urner
The difference in our sensitivities here has to do with the fact that I am unwilling to forget that the media our kids are experiencing is as it is only as a matter of market forces. The classroom should be a haven, and a respite and a counterforce. And one way to communicate to kids that we