Hate being the grunch. I hope the OLPC accomplishes everything it sets
out to and more.
What I suspect is that - having learnt something about complexity and
dynamic systems from computers - that the most profound effects of the
initiative will be unintended ones. Let's hope they are mostly
Hi Art,
if you are interested in a serious discussion with OLPC, rather than
just about OLPC, their open forum might be a better place than Python
edu-sig.
See http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo
You might even get a response ;-)
- Bert -
Am Jan 17, 2007 um 15:15 schrieb Arthur:
Grunch with a u is from Gander of Geese, saw some other funny ones,
Oh drat sorry, meant Gaggle of Geese not Gander.
This guy Haim (aka Zorro) on Math Forum always heckles me when
I get that wrong.
Here's an official government web page to help us out in the future:
- Original Message -From: kirby urner I'll leave it to Arthur to nail
down his affiliation.I am not now, nor have I ever been.Art
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Arthur wrote:
Particularly given this, I don't understand the embedded need, as part
of the process, to the compromise on some basic ideas - normally called
science. [...] Or - maybe more what he was
suggesting - is that until there is empricial evidence that leads us in
a certain and
Art-
It is funny to see the learning just in case educators crying out for
more testing just in case. Like the Albany Free School, or John Holt, or
The Hole in the Wall project or various other success stories relating
to learning on demand which the OLPC project supports did not exist. No
Yes, Paul:
School sucks.
Any kid worth his salt knows that
And yes Paul:
The possibilities for meaningful testing are indeed limited. Are we
influencing someone to be more or less creative, more or less
independent, etc.
Implicit in the design of any test is our values -i.e. for what are
Art-
I think one issue is here is the difference between apprenticeship and
teaching. Perhaps there is a middle position of mentoring between
those too, as apprenticeship can often be exploitive, plus take many
years. One of the best ways to learn a skill (like programming) might be
to be
Laura-
That's a good sentiment to use testing to see how we the tester is
succeeding at communicating. I totally agree with the benefit to any
presenter of feedback about whether the audience gets what they are trying
to present. Refining presentations and presentation skills is important.
On
Hi all!
I am deeply impressed by the profund discussions about OLPC. When I
look at the equiment of an ordinary school in Germany, it would be
nice if UNESCO would give all pupils a low cost notebook with python
installed to have a decent possibility to learn programming. ;-)
A week ago I
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