[Edu-sig] Re: Python Certificate

2022-05-20 Thread Carl Karsten
https://pycert.info/index.php/Python_Certification_Project "Please log in to view other pages." A) how do I get a login? B) why does anyone need a login to view? On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 10:13 AM Tomasz Muras wrote: > > On Fri, 20 May 2022 at 02:22, Carl Karsten wrote: >&g

[Edu-sig] Re: Python Certificate

2022-05-19 Thread Carl Karsten
"The form Python Certification Initiative 2 is no longer accepting responses." I suspect this is wrong ;) I have had to interview programmers a few times and it always baffled me. To this day I have no idea how anyone can evaluate a programmer's skill. One problem is it is not one problem. the

[Edu-sig] Re: Python Certificate

2022-05-04 Thread Carl Karsten
+1 On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 8:59 AM wrote: > > I have checked out the the Python certification programs and I think it would > be interesting to create something more "official" and more open/cheaper. I > have found a Polish company which calls itself as Python-Institute (which is > a bit mislea

Re: [Edu-sig] What to teach: sorting algorithms vs OOP?

2018-08-16 Thread Carl Karsten
One of my most memorable classes was Introduction to Algorithms. Not because I have ever needed to implement a linked list, but because it opened my eyes to a much larger field of knowledge than just knowing language syntax. I went into the class wondering what could I possibly learn? I left kno

[Edu-sig] CircuitPython+CPX = minimal setup to lean Python

2018-07-03 Thread Carl Karsten
As education enthusiasts, I highly recommend attending (or watching the video, I am going to give it extra attention) https://www.pyohio.org/2018/schedule/presentation/39/ Sunday 12:45 p.m.–2:45 p.m. in Suzanne Scharer """ CircuitPython is Python that runs on microcontrollers. It's designed for l

Re: [Edu-sig] Editors/IDEs for teaching

2018-07-03 Thread Carl Karsten
> Mu bundles Python 3... I did not know that, and now I love it even more. Thank you!!! I do "intro to Python" workshops, and I *hate* the "setup environment" step; it chews up so much limited precious time. I've used mu for about 30 min about a month ago when I attended a 1 hour conference ses

Re: [Edu-sig] Code to Joy in The Economist (June/July 2018)

2018-06-03 Thread Carl Karsten
Oh! the post-its go on the buckets. (thinks for a bit... tick tick tick.. smells smoke..) I still think it is OK to skip all this at the beginning and leave it for much later. -- Carl ps top/mid/bottom posting wars are a thing of the past. we lost. I encourage people to spend less time trimm

Re: [Edu-sig] Code to Joy in The Economist (June/July 2018)

2018-06-03 Thread Carl Karsten
gt; writing over to use the "label on a piece of data" model, because it's more > accurate for Python. > > Eric > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> Not only does that not answer my question, it contradicts previous >> state

Re: [Edu-sig] Code to Joy in The Economist (June/July 2018)

2018-06-03 Thread Carl Karsten
ss frustration trying to debug their programs, not > understanding the behavior. Whether they use DreamWeaver or some other > editor, this is relevant. > > David H > > > On Sunday, June 3, 2018 11:39am, "Carl Karsten" said: > > > >> That doesn'

Re: [Edu-sig] Code to Joy in The Economist (June/July 2018)

2018-06-03 Thread Carl Karsten
lts for mutable types. > > Cheers, > Naomi > > On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 at 13:56, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> > But you are totally right, Kirby - we've got to get him off of this >> > notion of variables as containers. "Post-its, not buckets" is the way I

Re: [Edu-sig] Code to Joy in The Economist (June/July 2018)

2018-06-03 Thread Carl Karsten
> But you are totally right, Kirby - we've got to get him off of this notion of > variables as containers. "Post-its, not buckets" is the way I put it, but I > rather like the luggage tag metaphor as well. You lost me here. What's wrong with bucket? On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Naomi Ceder

Re: [Edu-sig] Simplest webapps

2018-04-02 Thread Carl Karsten
web2py was written by a college professor to teach web development on a tight schedule. he didn't like the existing ones that took too long to get a Hello World thing up and running. "pick a db engine" is not something that needs to be part of the 2 hours of class time this week. but, it is targ

Re: [Edu-sig] strategies for teaching Python

2017-10-02 Thread Carl Karsten
I wish this event could be used to study how kids learn. http://www.hak4kidz.com I taught Python and felt I made good use of the 8 hours, will make better use of the 8 hours next time, and continue this pattern. Except it pains me that I am the one trying to understand how people learn, and I su

Re: [Edu-sig] Exhibit: Session 2 of 10, a Python training

2017-06-24 Thread Carl Karsten
time (for and *more* string formatting) Are you trying to introduce two more balls? I have always made a point of one at a time, but maybe that is boring and the student tunes out. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:04 AM, kirby urner wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Carl Karsten > wr

Re: [Edu-sig] Exhibit: Session 2 of 10, a Python training

2017-06-23 Thread Carl Karsten
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:12 AM, kirby urner wrote: > Looping with for >more string formatting > Kerby, I am curious about the pedagogy of introducing two distinct concepts at the same time like that. Care to elaborate? I'm trying not to be critical, I am not qualified ;) ___

Re: [Edu-sig] a simple api for json data

2017-06-18 Thread Carl Karsten
As soon as http://thecatapi.com supports json it will be my goto site for handy json and that day is coming soon. maybe sooner if you vote now. http://www.websitegoodies.com/pollresults.php?id=76423 On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 10:28 AM, kirby urner wrote: > [1] also a missing footnote from my prev

Re: [Edu-sig] AP Calc with Jupyter

2017-06-18 Thread Carl Karsten
tting dumb and ugly ;) Back to this thread - > Since cocalc.com defaults to Python 2 in Jupyter Notebooks I am a little surprised to hear JN defaults to Python 2. Or maybe this is a custom ... thing? On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:54 AM, kirby urner wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:

Re: [Edu-sig] AP Calc with Jupyter

2017-06-16 Thread Carl Karsten
I think teaching python v2 will be more confusing, and less useful than learning v3. I know enough people using v3 professionally that I wouldn't shy away from it. many (most active?) tutorials are migrated to v3, example http://www.diveintopython3.net On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:13 AM, A Jorge G

Re: [Edu-sig] mixed messages about math...

2016-08-05 Thread Carl Karsten
I pretty much disagree with your conclusion about "what is said. .. CS is not Math" and all the conclusions and predictions. Math classes and math teachers are not going to be replaced by anything. In HS my CS teacher was a trained musician. He did fine teaching Basic, but had no idea how to tea

Re: [Edu-sig] more simmering debate...

2016-04-20 Thread Carl Karsten
I also don't show real code right away. I scribble on the white board. class MotherShip; ... yeah, that's correct, but to me it looks too wordy for what is a fairly simple concept. hmm... simple? ok, inheritance is the concept that I think is fairly simple if you don't dive into all the othe

Re: [Edu-sig] more simmering debate...

2016-04-20 Thread Carl Karsten
> I like to say the class is a "mother ship" and serves as a kind of "home base" or "platform". How about an "amusement park"? ... I don't think any of that is any better. When explaining OOP, I have two points I try to drive home. 0. you can do anything in any language any way you please. OOP