Re: [Edu-sig] Fibonacci Numbers and Phi (again)

2013-11-22 Thread kirby urner
Another version, using a generator of Fibonacci triples... Encapsulating a discovery -- not a proof. By David Koski (Python by K. Urner) Failure at around 37th power is due to floating point limitations. import unittest def fib_triple(a=0, b=1): from anyproject import fib_triple

[Edu-sig] regarding 'iterables versus iterators' (example outbox, for peer review)

2013-10-10 Thread Kirby Urner
a little lamb wow, we have a grown up iterator! m a r y === Kirby Urner Senior Python Mentor Python Track / OST ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] PyconUK education track

2013-10-03 Thread Kirby Urner
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey nt...@ntoll.orgwrote: Were the Bank of America people STEM ambassadors or would that be more like a parent who wanted to volunteer, and had some background in technology? There are thousands of STEM ambassadors in the UK. Basically,

[Edu-sig] stickworks.py (Python 3.2 edition)

2013-09-29 Thread kirby urner
have word-wrapped during transport. Perform standard maintenance before first use. Kirby Some infrastructure for working with Vectors and Edges, including an xyplotter generator and axes maker. (c) By Kirby Urner, Sept 13, 2006, 2013, MIT License # no warranty, as is (feel free to bring up

[Edu-sig] bookdemo.py (a Visual Python animation -- reprogrammable)

2013-09-29 Thread kirby urner
A Visual Python animation showing a triangular page going back and forth between triangular book covers laid flat against the XY plane. The page tip traces a semi-circle (not displayed but certainly computed). As a result of two triangular flaps (cover and page) at some dihedral angle, a

Re: [Edu-sig] PyconUK education track

2013-09-29 Thread Kirby Urner
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey nt...@ntoll.orgwrote: Hi, Here's a write-up (one of many, but it's mine) about the PyconUK 2013 education track for teachers, students and developers that happened last weekend: http://ntoll.org/article/pyconuk2013-roundup It was a

Re: [Edu-sig] Quantities and Units in Python

2013-09-24 Thread Kirby Urner
Interesting resources thank you. Dr. Dobbs gets to write about Python under the heading of JVM Languages. Interesting. Sure, that's right. Jython is a Python. Kirby On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Vernon D. Cole vernondc...@gmail.comwrote: Given that my first useful programs were

[Edu-sig] Leveraging Python (recap of Djangocon workshop)

2013-09-19 Thread Kirby Urner
Good recap of a lot of my old themes, repackaged for this flagship conference. I was an invited representative of the greater Python community helping Djangonauts (Djangstas -- my preferred, if we're doing nicks) pick up some vibes from the Great Hall is it were (Vaults of Parnassus or whatever).

[Edu-sig] Looking back on Chicago (Python workshop)

2013-09-09 Thread kirby urner
I had a good workshop in Chicago. Two of the attenders worked assiduously on developing a native Linux installer for Visual Python (the latest) that wouldn't depend on Wine. The one guy brought his junky laptop (his other computer) and it overheated compiling all of wx (the latest Vpython

Re: [Edu-sig] Looking back on Chicago (Python workshop)

2013-09-09 Thread kirby urner
My schtick involves a mythical Python5, an add-on to my current courses, wherein we adopt a Model-View-Controller approach, as start with really simple views (i.e. ASCII art), knowing in advance the visualizations will be upgraded, using both render-time and real-time pipelines. The Model is

Re: [Edu-sig] the zip( ) function in Algebra 2?

2013-08-30 Thread Kirby Urner
Actually Dr. DiNucci is right in a subtle way: zip( ) is not a function, it's a type, and primitive types are callables in Python. I should follow-up on that point on edu-sig (too technical for math-teach). Thanks Dave. zip objects, like ranges, enumerations, other sequential things, are

Re: [Edu-sig] the zip( ) function in Algebra 2?

2013-08-30 Thread Kirby Urner
For those of you still scratching your heads, there's a version issue here as well. Since I teach 3.x for a living, these little difference are in my face all the time. More from FaceBook: Steve Holden: Zip() not a function? Where on Earth did you get that strange story from? It may return

[Edu-sig] the zip( ) function in Algebra 2?

2013-08-29 Thread Kirby Urner
I make a big deal out of this Python fragment in a Math Forum essay I recently posted: result = zip({planet, comet, sun}, {paramecium, duck, aardvark}, {banana, apple, orange}) list(result) [('planet', 'aardvark', 'orange'), ('sun', 'paramecium', 'apple'), ('comet', 'duck',

Re: [Edu-sig] setting the stage (short essay)

2013-08-27 Thread kirby urner
Here's some literary criticism regarding my little essay above: Today's reading is finding relatively less of a direct Athena-Apollo tension as that's not her Python he killed. She had a twisted son (he'd have to be, given her virginity -- at least the story is twisted) who looked like serpent

[Edu-sig] setting the stage (short essay)

2013-08-26 Thread kirby urner
At my upcoming workshop in Chicago I'm planning to stress the relevance of theater as *the* extended metaphor where scripting and browsing is concerned. JavaScript pulls the the strings of our DOM, the scenery or structure of the web page stage, while Servers are even further behind the scenes

[Edu-sig] Tetrahedron class with volume computer based on edges only

2013-08-17 Thread kirby urner
Euler volume, modified by Gerald de Jong http://www.grunch.net/synergetics/quadvols.html Kirby Urner (c) MIT License from math import sqrt, hypot class Tetrahedron: Takes six edges of tetrahedron with faces (a,b,d)(b,c,e)(c,a,f)(d,e,f) -- returns volume if ivm and xyz

[Edu-sig] illustrating send (used with yield) very simply

2013-08-16 Thread kirby urner
Plain vanilla Fibonacci Numbers but with the ability to reset the initial pair mid-course Kirby Urner (c) MIT License import unittest def fibs(a, b): while True: d = yield a # send to a, b if d: a, b = d[0], d[1] continue b, a = a + b, b

[Edu-sig] part time Python teacher: job opening

2013-08-13 Thread Kirby Urner
Here's a job opening at O'Reilly like the one I started in, and which eventually became full time. http://hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Careers.aspx?c=q319VfwSjvi=oGQLXfwY,job I'm spreading news of it on lists where I already know we have talented people who might be looking for something part

[Edu-sig] Leveraging Python (tutorial) in Chicago (Sept 2)

2013-08-07 Thread kirby urner
I just posted these two things to Chipy, the Chicago Users Group, in hopes of maybe attracting some Pythonistas to my tutorial, Sept 2. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2013-August/011323.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2013-August/011324.html One of the goals of the DSF

Re: [Edu-sig] Group Theory for Girl Scouts (and Boys too)

2013-07-19 Thread Kirby Urner
There's some playfulness here, with duck typing, in that the parameter name suggests a set, yet we pass a string, then work with listifications. This allows more types of input, yet the output should always be: a dict, a mapping, a permutation. Running it now, I get: P1: {'1': '6', '0':

[Edu-sig] Group Theory for Girl Scouts (and Boys too)

2013-07-18 Thread kirby urner
One of my favorite topics in mathematics which I think is accessible to kids, is that of permutations treated as objects, and made to compose. To this I affix the notion of substitution code or club house code, one of the simplest ciphers imaginable, and we're off, studying Group Theory. Then add

Re: [Edu-sig] Use of badges to encourage learning

2013-06-27 Thread kirby urner
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Andre Roberge andre.robe...@gmail.comwrote: There seems to be a trend on various websites to award users badges to keep track of progress. Other than the rationale that everyone is doing it this days so it must serve a purpose, do any of the edu-sig readers have

Re: [Edu-sig] FYI: Discrete Math class this year

2013-06-08 Thread kirby urner
This is an amazing resource / web site. I just wandered around in it awhile, blundering about. It's wonderful that you took the time to make so much of your classroom material world readable. Kirby On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:36 AM, A. Jorge Garcia calcp...@aol.com wrote: We played around

[Edu-sig] more promoting of Python for STEM curricula

2013-06-06 Thread Kirby Urner
More promulgating of: 'Mathematics for the Digital Age and Programming in Python' on the math-teach / Math Forum list (hosted by Drexel U) where I'm a regular poster: http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2574824 I put it on a syllabus of only three books, suggesting a kernel or core

Re: [Edu-sig] Maintaining the edu-sig page on python.org

2013-04-25 Thread kirby urner
I'd gladly take it back however I'm also quite happy to see a wider circle of maintainers. I don't need to hog all the fame and glory. ;-D There's a website redesign going on right now, as you know, so the implications of page maintenance will change from what they were (presumably less

Re: [Edu-sig] Maintaining the edu-sig page on python.org

2013-04-25 Thread kirby urner
I see the edu-sig page as being primarily a front page for this email list, where the subscribers have updated more current information. The text of the page should encourage asked questions of our subscribers versus always trying to remain comprehensive about every cool tool, toy, book or

[Edu-sig] latest blog re generators geometry

2013-04-25 Thread kirby urner
___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

[Edu-sig] illustrating a class wrapper

2013-04-17 Thread Kirby Urner
def g(x): return x + 2 class Hijack: def __init__(self, f): self.f = g def __call__(self, x): return self.f(x) @Hijack def f(x): return x * x print(f(10)) print(f(100)) The code above shows a decorator, Hijack, that takes a function g from the global namespace and

[Edu-sig] another Python generator (Bernoulli numbers)

2013-04-16 Thread kirby urner
from fractions import Fraction as R def choose(n, k): chosen / adapted from: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t502438-combination-function-in-python.html ntok = 1 for t in range(min(k, n-k)): ntok = ntok*(n-t)//(t+1) return ntok def Bernoulli():

[Edu-sig] explaining about decorators

2013-04-16 Thread Kirby Urner
I'm sure this could be improved upon and/or is discussed more eloquently elsewhere. I'm inviting links, comments. I recall our own discussion here on edu-sig where we played with @D def f(x):... as taking a Derivative of f. Guido didn't think it was such a great idea as I recall.

[Edu-sig] another Python generator (logarithmic numbers)

2013-04-14 Thread kirby urner
from fractions import Fraction as R def Gregory(): Gregory Coefficients ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler-Mascheroni_constant) 1/2, 1/12, 1/24, 19/720, 3/160, 863/60480... using fraction module to keep it rational. G = [R(-1,1)] def Sum(n): total = R(0,1)

Re: [Edu-sig] import turtle ERROR

2013-04-11 Thread kirby urner
** ** So I copied the file to the desktop and test it from there but that failed too. *I eventually copied the file to the python directory (c:\python33) and that worked*. Hi Karine -- This sounds like an issue with sys.path, a list of directories to search when import is used.

Re: [Edu-sig] online coding?

2013-03-20 Thread Kirby Urner
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Rakesh Barve rba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am not an expert but one recent development is dynamic languages such as Python can now be interpreted and run inside browsers, making it possible to do the below kind of stuff as well as execution with no need of

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 116, Issue 4

2013-03-17 Thread Kirby Urner
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Jeff Elkner j...@elkner.net wrote: Lee, if you are looking for a classroom teacher to try out pyguin in the classroom, sign me up! I'll have it installed in my lab on Thursday, when I return, in any case. It rocks! Now a question: how difficult would it be

[Edu-sig] post Education Summit at Pycon

2013-03-14 Thread kirby urner
Greetings from Pycon 2013 in Santa Clara. We enjoyed a day long Education Summit on Pi Day today (3/14) an pun (py vs pi) that did not go unnoticed. The program featured a keynote by Walter Bender, founder of Sugarlabs, followed by an unconference of three consecutive sessions and seven

Re: [Edu-sig] Python MOOC (massive open online course)

2013-03-06 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:56 AM, John Posner jjpos...@optimum.net wrote: At the nytimes.com site, I came across a reference to this Python course in the comments to Thomas Friedman's latest column: http://blog.topfreeclasses.com/2012/12/an-introduction-to-interactive-python.html Does anyone have

Re: [Edu-sig] Python testimonial sought...

2013-02-19 Thread kirby urner
, that was not it. (I did watch the entire video) What I am looking for was something written by a fourth-year University student about a final year project. André On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andre -- My clearest memory along those

Re: [Edu-sig] Python testimonial sought...

2013-02-18 Thread kirby urner
Hi Andre -- My clearest memory along those lines was it was a talking head maybe Jeff Elkner himself in that student-made video about the virtues of Python. You may recall the video: there's an old hippie dad, a parody of a student's father. It's a kind of love story, where this girl show this

[Edu-sig] Overview to students re Python GUIs: open to improvement

2013-02-14 Thread Kirby Urner
background in GUI stuff for all I know, this is not CS0 or CS1 in that we get people with decades of coding experience, just wanting to pick up Python as another tool in their tool belt). Kirby Urner O'Reilly School of Technology Note that Python-the-language stays reasonably small in that GUI stuff

Re: [Edu-sig] (no subject)

2013-02-07 Thread Kirby Urner
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:31 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Your idea to do fractions, to build them from the inside out, is a good idea. You could start with Guido's record-simple GCD function, for Euclid's Algorithm, then gradually build out with __add__, __mul__ etc

Re: [Edu-sig] (no subject)

2013-02-03 Thread kirby urner
Hi Dan -- You ask a lot of good questions. I don't think it's required that you know Python cold (i.e. really well) before sharing it with your daughter or others. They see you're tackling something and getting better at it bit by bit, like sailing, playing the guitar, and that's inspiring. If

Re: [Edu-sig] Python's keywords and functions convertor into native language for lowering entrance barrier

2013-02-02 Thread kirby urner
I think Kython is a wonderful idea, and corresponding trainers in any Unicode language. Ideally there'd be a Kython - Python translator, even at the source code level, that only swapped in the Python keywords, builtins, special names, Standard Library names. This looks like a round trip exercise

Re: [Edu-sig] Python's keywords and functions convertor into native language for lowering entrance barrier

2013-01-30 Thread kirby urner
Hi Murat -- I presume you know that Python 3 source code may use any Unicode strings for names, including variables, functions, classes and so on. That leaves 33 keywords in English. import keyword keyword.kwlist You can write a script that simply catalogs synonyms for builtins. басуу =

Re: [Edu-sig] Teaching Math with Python

2013-01-28 Thread kirby urner
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Dan Peirce peirce@gmail.com wrote: I came across an old story at http://onlamp.com/pub/a/python/2000/10/04/pythonnews.html about Teaching Math with Python. Unfortunately the links are now broken. Is there more current information available? Any online

Re: [Edu-sig] PyGeo

2013-01-25 Thread kirby urner
These are excellent questions Kevin. Arthur was an extraordinarily bright and committed guy and took his winnings in financial services to fund a long sabbatical studying what really most interested him: projective geometry. He really admired Klein. Those mining the archives may think Arthur

[Edu-sig] ApacheCon: it's about a lot more than Apache webserver

2013-01-24 Thread kirby urner
http://projects.apache.org/ (FYI) -- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com Date: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:03 PM Subject: Time to make a noise ... We'd appreciate your help in creating a little more buzz about ApacheCon NA. It turns out that another major

Re: [Edu-sig] Drs. Fotis Georgatos's MSc thesis

2013-01-23 Thread Kirby Urner
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Andre Roberge andre.robe...@gmail.comwrote: snip I took that as a joke; very few people invent new words, so we are all plagiarizing in that sense. Yes, I see it that way too. The individual words we use do not originate with us. Plagiarism is less about

Re: [Edu-sig] this room is occupied (multi-threading metaphor)

2013-01-12 Thread kirby urner
functions, a metabolism. Hence the need for a self.stomach and snake.eat( ) and snake.poop() methods -- self.stomach a FIFO column. Kirby -- Forwarded message -- From: kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM Subject: Re: thoughts about your paper

[Edu-sig] this room is occupied (multi-threading metaphor)

2013-01-11 Thread kirby urner
I think an obvious way to describe the use of locks when multi-threading is to use the coffee shop model (same as airplane model), where there's only one bathroom / toilet. Or maybe there are two but each takes its own key. Or mulitple unisex (still for one passenger only) like portable ones at

[Edu-sig] Fwd: [Chicago] Dr Chuck MOOC

2012-12-25 Thread kirby urner
On my radar... -- Forwarded message -- From: Randy Baxley randy7771...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM Subject: [Chicago] Dr Chuck MOOC To: chic...@python.org http://online.dr-chuck.com/index.php Dr. Chuck is a fun professor and I have already worked through his

Re: [Edu-sig] generate digits of pi

2012-12-23 Thread kirby urner
the digits in binary. In the original form the generator never terminates. Somewhere along the line an edit was made to try to get it to terminate at n digits. Probably to make calling it easy to call as in list(pi_digits(n)). - Michel On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Kirby Urner kur

[Edu-sig] generate digits of pi

2012-12-22 Thread Kirby Urner
I'm taking the liberty of reposting this generator supplied by Pythonista michel paul on Math Future. He's not the author though. def pi_digits(n): k, a, b, a1, b1 = 2, 4, 1, 12, 4 while n0: p, q, k = k*k, 2*k+1, k+1 a, b, a1, b1 = a1, b1, p*a+q*a1, p*b+q*b1 d,

Re: [Edu-sig] generate digits of pi

2012-12-22 Thread Kirby Urner
wonder? David H -Original Message- From: Kirby Urner kur...@oreillyschool.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 5:33pm To: edu-sig@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] generate digits of pi I'm taking the liberty of reposting this generator supplied by Pythonista michel paul on Math

Re: [Edu-sig] generate digits of pi

2012-12-22 Thread Kirby Urner
Got it, no wrong digits just not always exactly the number you asked for. This happens often in 3.2 as well: exp = ((n,len(list(pi_digits(n for n in range(1)) # (number asked, number got) exp2 = ((a,b) for a,b in exp if a != b) # filter on not same for i in range(10):

Re: [Edu-sig] docs.tutorial function example - too complicated

2012-12-16 Thread kirby urner
The official docs for Python are not really designed for people new to programming but for people who have already experienced programming and now want to add Python as an additional language. The tutorial does not take the time to slow down and start from the beginning. John Zelle's book (and

[Edu-sig] more in the Rich Data Structure series

2012-12-02 Thread kirby urner
Quantum Field Theory: Skeletal draft of objects Rich Data Series To help with studies, students learning Python might bend its notation to help them wrap their heads around this and that. Here's a module I've been working on after listening to Sean Carroll's ISEPP lecture in Portland last night

[Edu-sig] Thoughts about upgrading our python.org page

2012-12-02 Thread kirby urner
Proposal to upgrade: http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/ Probably it's time to mention some new projects. Examples: http://www.pythontutor.com/ http://www.skulpt.org/ http://www.raspberrypi.org/ http://arduino.cc/playground/Interfacing/Python That's not meant to be an

[Edu-sig] more news 'n views

2012-11-15 Thread Kirby Urner
In related news (noting RurPL is continuing its advance)... the Visual Python group (VPython.org) have been tackling in earnest the challenge of seamlessly integrating their 3D mini-API to an OpenGL experience within wxPython, the Python adapter for the wx GUI toolkit. I simply subscribe to that

Re: [Edu-sig] Problem with Python in Windows

2012-11-15 Thread kirby urner
Greeting Jackie: Python's IDLE talks to itself over 127.0.0.1 and sometimes antivirus software can police that circuit. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8588025/unable-to-load-idle-python-gui I do suggest an experiment where you shut off any antivirus / policing software you can think of,

Re: [Edu-sig] Problem with Python in Windows

2012-11-15 Thread kirby urner
Jackie's problem was fixed with the -n switch. I've used Python 3.x extensively with Win7 since 3.x became available, also XP. Python is used with Windows all over the place. Windows is a flagship platform for Python. There can be confusions these days over whether one should run a 64 bit or

[Edu-sig] upcoming presentation...

2012-11-13 Thread kirby urner
I'm shortly to give a 20 min talk, one of two, at our monthly Python Users Group this evening. Usually we meet at Urban Airship but today we've moved to a new location, I think maybe just for this month but I'm not sure. Michelle Rowley, PSF member, is our most visible / public leader and she

Re: [Edu-sig] python vs processing for introducing programming?

2012-10-31 Thread kirby urner
I hope you stick around Thomas. I'm one of the old timers here but not a list owner or moderator. My initial recruitment into Python was through my search for ways to do 3D (spatial) geometry in cool ways + Guido's on-line CP4E essay. The web was just getting going and there was a paucity of

Re: [Edu-sig] dot notation (in favor of sharing it)

2012-10-29 Thread kirby urner
I really like the traffic on edu-sig as I sense the whirl-winds from here. Nice overlook. True story: this summer I did another Martian Math class, a short fun experience for self selected mid-teens with a penchant for math and things academic, so there by choice, on a bright summer's day, but

Re: [Edu-sig] dot notation (in favor of sharing it)

2012-10-26 Thread kirby urner
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:18 AM, michel paul mpaul...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful! Many functions are irreversible, tiz true. digested (chewed (toasted ( m ) ) ) -- encrypted Good luck getting the plaintext back out again. Talk about lossy compression. Kirby Then eating a piece of toast

Re: [Edu-sig] dot notation (in favor of sharing it)

2012-10-25 Thread kirby urner
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:00 AM, gerry lowry +1 705 429-7550 wasaga beach ontario canada gerry.lo...@abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com wrote: Hello Kirby, i took a very brief look at your http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2012/10/dot-notation-again.html. There does not appear to be any way to

Re: [Edu-sig] dot notation (in favor of sharing it)

2012-10-24 Thread kirby urner
) Kirby On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:21 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: Still going. http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7909175 Ada Day posting: ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Edu-sig] dot notation (in favor of sharing it)

2012-10-19 Thread kirby urner
Still going. http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7909175 Ada Day posting: -- Forwarded message -- From: kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Diversity] How will [] free software be improved by being developed by a bl

Re: [Edu-sig] Education Summit and a personal note

2012-09-30 Thread Kirby Urner
I've accepted the e-Vite already and put it through to my boss to ask the dean if there might be budget to send me as a rep from my school, vs. me digging into after taxes earnings. We shall see (big wheels turns slowly). I just hope we get it sorted out soon enough to not miss a seat. I know

Re: [Edu-sig] python vs processing for introducing programming?

2012-09-27 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:48 AM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in hearing from anyone with experience in teaching Processing to this age group, and anyone with any thoughts on the topic. Thanks, Andy Judkis Academy of Allied Health and Science Neptune, NJ I

Re: [Edu-sig] python vs processing for introducing programming?

2012-09-26 Thread kirby urner
I'd be interested in hearing from anyone with experience in teaching Processing to this age group, and anyone with any thoughts on the topic. Thanks, Andy Judkis Academy of Allied Health and Science Neptune, NJ I probably shouldn't be answering this as I don't have the Processing

Re: [Edu-sig] PyCon Education Summit Update

2012-09-05 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey nt...@ntoll.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, If you're interested, there's a video of yesterday evening's Google hangout meeting where I get to talk to a bunch of teachers (and even a couple of

Re: [Edu-sig] PyCon Education Summit Update

2012-08-22 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Vern Ceder vce...@gmail.com wrote: snip Also, I've developed a basic statement of the topics we'll be covering: As I see it there are the three core issues that most impact Python education today: engagement, curriculum and teaching. So I'm proposing that

Re: [Edu-sig] PyCon Education Summit Update

2012-08-22 Thread kirby urner
The way I articulate my own position these days is that to learn mathematics the way it's needed in STEM, you need at least one computer language.** Oops, forgot my little footnote: http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7872776 Kirby ___

Re: [Edu-sig] teaching in a classroom again...

2012-08-06 Thread kirby urner
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:31 AM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: I've again been teaching teens, no my usual practice these days, but a fun variation on the theme. OK, I finished this one week gig. Here's a write-up, though mixed with the flotsam and jetsam of life: http

Re: [Edu-sig] teaching in a classroom again...

2012-08-06 Thread kirby urner
/2012, at 14:13, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:31 AM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: I've again been teaching teens, no my usual practice these days, but a fun variation on the theme. OK, I finished this one week gig. Here's a write-up, though

[Edu-sig] teaching in a classroom again...

2012-08-02 Thread kirby urner
I've again been teaching teens, no my usual practice these days, but a fun variation on the theme. Saturday Academy kids are self selected and tend not to have ego problems around whether they're smart enough or whatever it takes. The all believe they have the right stuff ultimately. The

Re: [Edu-sig] Updated Blog - Khan Academy: Savior of the American Educational System?

2012-07-29 Thread Kirby Urner
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:10 PM, A. Jorge Garcia calcp...@aol.com wrote: I blogged about Khan Academy recently. If you've seen my post, you may want to revisit it as I've been updating it over the last few weeks. I've been getting a lot of email queries about SmartBoarding and ScreenCasting

[Edu-sig] first thoughts after OSCON

2012-07-21 Thread kirby urner
I've been to a number of OSCONs in my day, this being the 2nd wherein a participated behind the scenes on the talks selection committee, a pretty big commitment actually. I've also been a speaker, which is pressure of a different kind. OSCON is like a weather sensing device, very sensitive, but

Re: [Edu-sig] more pix of Raspberry Pi

2012-07-13 Thread kirby urner
I've been able to make RaspberryPi smoothly play FullHD video, here is the screenshot - https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yd7QUT3ujlQ/T-2QzuE5POI/CGs/_JeF_q3YAzQ/s1024/P1010060.JPG Kirby Way cool. Looks like 'Bugs Life' on screen maybe. We figured out how to modify

Re: [Edu-sig] Education Room (Pycon 2013)

2012-07-13 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey nt...@ntoll.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm a former teacher currently working as a Python developer and I've stepped up to help organise the Education track at this year's PyconUK (happening in

[Edu-sig] more pix of Raspberry Pi

2012-07-12 Thread kirby urner
courtesy of @thekirbster 5m Kirby Urner Kirby Urner ‏@thekirbster @holdenweb here's the blog post, w pix http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2012/07/from-open-bastion.html Kirby ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

[Edu-sig] Education Room (Pycon 2013)

2012-07-11 Thread kirby urner
Vern and I have been chatting off list about his plans for an Education Room (ER? -- name collision) at Pycon 2013 (US). I've been thinking of exhibits, independently of the poster space, giving a sense of Python's span, as well has history, vis-a-vis the education systems. We've talked about

Re: [Edu-sig] guide to learning decorators

2012-07-08 Thread kirby urner
Re: http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Learning-Python-Decorators-ebook/dp/B006ZHJSIM I got the Kindle book on Python decorators. Quite inexpensive. I didn't give it my highest rating though, for two reasons: (a) there's some representing that an exhaustive treatment of the function arguments and

Re: [Edu-sig] guide to learning decorators

2012-07-08 Thread kirby urner
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Matt Harrison matthewharri...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Kirby- Author of said book replying :) Wow fast. I wondered if you'd spider over here for a chat (smile), sensing vibrations in the Web. I didn't give it my highest rating though, for two reasons: (a)

[Edu-sig] gender-specific Python training; link to MathFuture

2012-06-18 Thread kirby urner
Portland's Python community is experimenting with some more gender-specific Python training, geared for noobs: http://www.meetup.com/pdxpython/events/66193362/ Michelle Rowley, newly sired into the PSF (my nominee), has a full house already and a 2nd such event is in the planning stage. Over on

[Edu-sig] visualizing namespaces

2012-05-27 Thread kirby urner
Steve Holden was asking on the PSF members list (some overlap with here) for other ways to diagram / teach about namespaces in his slides. This is the slide show he's talking about. http://holdenweb.com/files/PythonIntro.pdf (namespaces = like clouds) After some back and forth, another visual:

Re: [Edu-sig] Teaching python at a Computer Clubhouse

2012-05-21 Thread kirby urner
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Carl Cerecke c...@free.org.nz wrote: I'm thinking of becoming a mentor at a local Computer Clubhouse http://www.computerclubhouse.org/. In particular, there are some kids there who are quite keen to learn to make their own games, but none of the current mentors

Re: [Edu-sig] Next Steps in Python, for teachers

2012-05-19 Thread Kirby Urner
Way cool Alan. I helped spread the word here: http://www.facebook.com/oreillyschool What to do with Python? How to integrate it with STEM? Lots of ways to go, including with VPython (vpython.org). Kirby On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Alan O'Donohoe a...@odonohoe.org.ukwrote: We held a

[Edu-sig] a short essay about programming

2012-04-21 Thread kirby urner
A common error (not too serious) that I see in beginning Python (and no doubt other languages, but Python is the one I'm teaching), is having a while condition that appears to put a lid on things, but then the flow all leaks away through break statements, such that the front door condition is

Re: [Edu-sig] a short essay about programming

2012-04-21 Thread kirby urner
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:11 AM, John Zelle john.ze...@wartburg.edu wrote: Kirby, There are some nice thoughts here that I don't really disagree with, but your code examples don't use the while conditions well. If you put a condition on the loop, there should be no reason to retest the same

Re: [Edu-sig] a short essay about programming

2012-04-21 Thread kirby urner
... another useful contribution to this thread. -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Pattis pat...@ics.uci.edu Date: Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:53 PM Subject: I'm not allowed to post To: kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com Feel free to post this for me, which got returned. Probably

Re: [Edu-sig] transforming CS at Harvey Mudd

2012-04-05 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote: ... I think it's pretty easy to interpret this article as saying that the women couldn't hack it until it was replaced with something light and fluffy with fewer sharp edges.  Nowhere does it indicate that

[Edu-sig] CS + theater

2012-04-05 Thread kirby urner
As I was telling my younger daughter during the ride to school today (she's a senior in high school, though already 20% professor and 22% your boss), a huge missed opportunity (so far) is the hybrid of theater and computer science. My older step daughter majored - minored in something like that,

Re: [Edu-sig] CS + theater

2012-04-05 Thread kirby urner
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Philip Guo p...@cs.stanford.edu wrote: Agreed that finding more synergies (pardon my business-speak) between computing and the liberal arts can be wonderful.  Reminds me a bit of Computing for Poets: http://cs.wheatoncollege.edu/~mleblanc/131/ Yes. Theater

Re: [Edu-sig] transforming CS at Harvey Mudd

2012-04-05 Thread Kirby Urner
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Jacqueline Wilson jwil...@paduaacademy.org wrote: ... Heh, good rant, really liked it. applause I've volleyed back at my buddy -- hope to see what you'll make of it. That's a moderated list (iron fist of Drexel) with known-quantity characters / veterans

[Edu-sig] edu-sig in Pythonia

2012-04-02 Thread kirby urner
A few of us at Pycon were nodding heads (+1ing) over the idea that our subculture / ethnicity could evolve these canned talks that different people deliver in their personalized style. More than that, they demonstrate new teaching techniques such that the audience might appreciate how advances in

Re: [Edu-sig] edu-sig in Pythonia

2012-04-02 Thread kirby urner
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM, DeanG goodmans...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Regarding the Args Kwargs, Matt Harrisons Guide to: Learning Python Decorators was a great read for this topic. http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Learning-Python-Decorators-ebook/dp/B006ZHJSIM I'm quite tempted to buy a

[Edu-sig] Raspberry Pi?

2012-03-29 Thread kirby urner
Lots of buzz on PSF list about Python and Raspberry Pi. I know from independent sources that Python has attracted considerable attention in the UK education community. Also, the BBC Micro also came out around this time and our PSF chairman is in the UK to help celebrate its anniversary (50th? --

Re: [Edu-sig] Raspberry Pi?

2012-03-29 Thread Kirby Urner
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 29.03.2012, at 17:49, kirby urner wrote: Raspberry Pi doesn't currently run Python but there is some thought that it should. Huh? This is what the FAQ says: http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs Apologies

[Edu-sig] a snippet about Pycon 2012

2012-03-18 Thread kirby urner
Here's an excerpt from a post to a bfi.org related group in follow-up to Pycon: In other news, related in that micro-engineering is at the basis of all of this, I have recently returned from PyCon 2012, more technically the US Pycon of that year, but which will be moving to Montreal in 2014, so

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