Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2015-01-09 Thread Andre Roberge
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:08 AM, kirby urner wrote: > > I think the mailing list listowner role and coordinating PES are entirely > separate roles. > > For example we could rotate the latter while keeping the former fixed for > many years. > > The edu-sig page has never mentioned PES. > > I'd hav

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2015-01-09 Thread kirby urner
I think the mailing list listowner role and coordinating PES are entirely separate roles. For example we could rotate the latter while keeping the former fixed for many years. The edu-sig page has never mentioned PES. I'd have no problem with Jeff doing both, but I see no reason to confuse the l

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2015-01-09 Thread Chalmer Lowe
Sounds great. What are you thinking? On May 21, 2014 4:47 PM, "Jeff Elkner" wrote: > First off, kudos to Naomi, Jessica, and Chalmer on putting together a > thoroughly enjoyable EDU Summit at Pycon! > > I'm interested in following up from that with some on-going Python in > Education work through

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2015-01-09 Thread Chalmer Lowe
It has taken a while, but I am finally getting settled into my new job and my new home, after a major relocation from the east coast to the pacific. I am now in a much better position to pick up this conversation and start moving forward with next year's Python Education Summit and working with th

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2015-01-09 Thread Chalmer Lowe
Jeff, I would be happy to be the coordinator. Next question is... What are the official duties of a SIG coordinator? : ) On May 23, 2014 10:40 AM, "Jeff Elkner" wrote: > OK, I'm all set with the access I need to edit the edu-sig page. I > plan to spend at least part of my time on May 31st (Natio

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2015-01-09 Thread Chalmer Lowe
Jeff: Thanks for spinning up this conversation. Great stuff. My intent is to volunteer to chair the Python Education Summit (PES) next year (based on Naomi's comments regarding stepping down). I don't know what the formal process is to make that official... Naomi... can you shed light on that? A

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-07-29 Thread Naomi Ceder
Hi Chalmer, Glad to hear you're getting settled in a new environment. I know what you mean, except in my case it's probably cooler and wetter than yours. :-) I'll send the occasional inquiries I get on edu summit matters on to you. Cheers, Naomi On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Chalmer Lowe w

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-25 Thread Jeff Elkner
The Software Carpentry link is fixed. Thanks, Kirby! I can not fix the mailing list settings. The following page: https://mail.python.org/mailman/admin/edu-sig states that wil...@visi.com is running the mailing list. I've cc'd Wilson here. Let's see if that works. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread kirby urner
I agree, not a problem at all, to include a full spectrum of outreach / initiatives, to K-12 (or the equivalent in other namespaces / systems) and beyond. In terms of the website, I think the edu-sig home page is a good place to start: https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig I notic

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread Jeff Elkner
Which has not been a problem at all. Think of the big involvement from the RIT folks in this year's PES. It's a meritocracy, after all. The volunteers who step forward determine what gets done. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Jessica Nickel wrote: > Kirby, > > I agree, and think there definit

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread kirby urner
Sounds good to me, as long as we're clear that "promoting Python in education" is in no way limited to K-12. I'm a full time teacher of Python to adults and like to think edu-sig is the right venue for my kind of chatter as well. So far, I've felt that way. K-12 is important and welcome, but not

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread Andrew Harrington
If Chalmers steps up for both, fine, but I agree with Naomi: We should not make this a precedent. There is a real question of what edu-sig coordinator would mean, past monitoring the listserv. As has been the case historically, there is always the question of how to get volunteer effort together

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread Jeff Elkner
What I'm hoping for is broader participation and on-going effort in promoting Python in education. It makes sense to coordinate this effort with the PES, which could serve as a yearly gathering of folks who have been working together throughout the year. This is a good time to do this, following

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread kirby urner
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Jeff Elkner wrote: > Great! So it seems we have two short term goals: > > 1. Get someone to agree to maintain the website (I'm volunteering if > there isn't anyone else chomping at the bit to do it). > Thanks for stepping up Jeff. We've not had an active web wr

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread kirby urner
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Jeff Elkner wrote: << SNIP >> > At some point soon we should add edu-sig on the SIG page as one of the > currently active SIGs. > > It's not? Weird. In my experience edu-sig has never been inactive. Compare our archives to that of math-thinking-l if you wan

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread Naomi Ceder
As far as coordinating the PyCon Education Summit, I don't think there is a strong precedent for any connection between Edu-Sig and running the summit. In general, PyCon people are just that - PyCon organizing spots aren't tied officially to any other Python organizations they may well be on t

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread Jeff Elkner
Let's see if Naomi has anything different to say, but doesn't it make sense that the main task of the edu-sig coordinator would be to coordinate the edu-sig's main event, the PES? On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Chalmer Lowe wrote: > Jeff, I would be happy to be the coordinator. > Next question

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-23 Thread Jeff Elkner
OK, I'm all set with the access I need to edit the edu-sig page. I plan to spend at least part of my time on May 31st (National Day of Civic Hacking) working on the web site. The bottom of our web page currently says: "Send suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list.", which is a good way to han

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Andre Roberge
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Jeff Elkner wrote: > Great. Any chance someone could point me in the direction of "someone > on the web support team"? I'll take it from there. > I would try webmas...@python.org > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Andre Roberge > wrote: > > > > > > > > O

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Jeff Elkner
Great. Any chance someone could point me in the direction of "someone on the web support team"? I'll take it from there. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Andre Roberge wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jeff Elkner wrote: >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1. Andre, what do I need to do

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Andre Roberge
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jeff Elkner wrote: > Two questions: > > 1. Andre, what do I need to do to begin maintaining that page? > I have not maintained the page for quite a few years now. I changed computer twice in the meantime. Here's what I remember that I had to do. 1. contact so

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Jeff Elkner
Two questions: 1. Andre, what do I need to do to begin maintaining that page? 2. Is there anyone in this thread not on edu-sig? My next reply will go only to the list. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Jessica Nickel wrote: > Sounds like a plan. I would be happy to talk with Selena about the wo

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Jeff Elkner
Great! So it seems we have two short term goals: 1. Get someone to agree to maintain the website (I'm volunteering if there isn't anyone else chomping at the bit to do it). 2. Reach out to Selena Deckelman to help her with her efforts to bridge the gap between developers and K-12 teachers (a nobl

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Andre Roberge
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Jeff Elkner wrote: > What would be the next step? I think you are right, Naomi, that what > I'm talking about is an EDU effort, whereas I imagine "Education and > Outreach" is more about reaching out to the Business and IT > communities to tell them about Python.

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Naomi Ceder
One point of info I can add - the person you're thinking of running for PSF board is Selena Deckelman, who was on Nate's panel at the edu summit. She's been very into bridging the gap between developers and K-12 teachers. Naomi ___ Edu-sig mailing list E

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-22 Thread Jeff Elkner
What would be the next step? I think you are right, Naomi, that what I'm talking about is an EDU effort, whereas I imagine "Education and Outreach" is more about reaching out to the Business and IT communities to tell them about Python. Should we adding a Python in Education committee? One of th

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-21 Thread Jeff Elkner
Not sure exactly, but a group within the PSF that, among other things: 1. Works together to gather, share, and develop educational resources on python.org. 2. Plans next year's education summit. 3. Helps promote Python's use in education and coordinate activities around Python in edu. On Wed, May

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-21 Thread Naomi Ceder
There is an already PSF Education and Outreach committee... I think that what you're thinking would be somewhat different than what they do, but that might be the place to start. Cheers, Naomi On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Jessica Nickel wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I would be excited to be a part

[Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

2014-05-21 Thread Jeff Elkner
First off, kudos to Naomi, Jessica, and Chalmer on putting together a thoroughly enjoyable EDU Summit at Pycon! I'm interested in following up from that with some on-going Python in Education work throughout the year, and with the changes in the PSF, that may be the way to go about it. How can we