Re: Elasticsearch 1.1.0 - Optimize broken?

2014-04-10 Thread Elliott Bradshaw
Adrien, Just an FYI, after resetting the cluster, things seem to have improved. Optimize calls now lead to CPU/IO activity over their duration. Max_num_segments=1 does not seem to be working for me on any given call, as each call would only reduce the segment count by about 600-700. I ran

Re: Cross Fields w/ Fuzziness

2014-04-10 Thread Elliott Bradshaw
Any thoughts on this? The search type is really fantastic and we're already using it in production, but a fuzziness capability would add so much. On Monday, April 7, 2014 9:59:54 AM UTC-4, Elliott Bradshaw wrote: Hi Elasticsearch, I've been playing with the new cross_fields multi match

S3 gateway issues

2014-04-10 Thread Ankur Goel
hi, I am using s3 gateway in a application , elastic search version 1.x , I had a strange exception while starting my nodes , please take a look Error injecting constructor, java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException at org.elasticsearch.gateway.s3.S3Gateway.init(Unknown Source) while

ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Jianjun Hu
Hi all, How to do benchmark of the ElasticSearch? Thanks! Best, Jianjun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups elasticsearch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

source() and doc() disparity in a AbstractDoubleSearchScript

2014-04-10 Thread eddie
Hi all, We have having some issues with differences between source() and doc() in a search script. We're running 0.90.2 with the following mapping mappings: { - features: { - properties: { -id: { - - type: integer } - histogram: {

Can ES compute result of aggregation's result

2014-04-10 Thread Zhao Chun
Hi all I have two sum when aggregation over, for example `click total num` and `search total num`. Is there some operator that can give me a num which is `click total num`/`search total num`? Thanks Zhao Chun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Leslie Hawthorn
Hi Jianjun, On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jianjun Hu 4nexu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, How to do benchmark of the ElasticSearch? Thanks! The answer to this question is it depends. It would be very helpful to describe a bit more about what you are working on so people can give a better

Re: OutOfMemoryError (Java heap space) during replication enabling on 90 indices

2014-04-10 Thread Jesse Davis
As well, the uncommented sections of our elasticsearch.yml: bootstrap.mlockall: true gateway.type: local gateway.recover_after_nodes: 4 gateway.recover_after_time: 5m gateway.expected_nodes: 4 discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes: 2 discovery.zen.ping.timeout: 20s

Mapping Arrays - Weird Question

2014-04-10 Thread roblangenfeld
So I'm working on the JSON mapping for several of our documents and one of the fields happens to be a string array. I looked at the documentation for how it's supposed to be done and it left me confused. Could someone clarify it for me? Here is essentially what I want to happen (part of my

Equivalent of IndexRequestBuilder.setPercolate(....) in version 1.0

2014-04-10 Thread Eliezer Shindler
Dear All, I am new to elasticsearch, but have been asked to update our (Java) code from ES version 0.90 to version 1. Can anyone tell me how to do the equivalent of builder.setPercolate(String) in version 1.0. A short example would also be greatly appreciated. Can this be done without the

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Jianjun Hu
Hi Leslie, Thanks for your reply. We have some data in MySQL database and some PDF documents. We want to index them and let our user to use. So we decide to use the ElasticSearch. Before using the ElsaticSearch, we want to know the performance of the ElasticSearch, so we want to do benchmark

Re: 13mil documents and Elasticsearch status=red after server restart

2014-04-10 Thread Madeleine
I've also closed all indices, then started one only and waited... Still ended up with a red status and some unallocated shards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups elasticsearch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Leslie Hawthorn
Hi Jianjun, Thank you for the additional details. I think we will need some more information but I will let someone who is better skilled at benchmarking Elasticsearch ask you about it. Welcome to the mailing list! We are happy to have you here and to help. Cheers, LH On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at

Re: Querying with Completion Suggesters with Java API

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Wortinger
Hello Dan, thanks again for all the help but I can't seem to get anything to return. Here is my full code, there has to be something I'm missing. Maybe in the indexing, the mapping? Mapping: putMappingResponse = new PutMappingRequestBuilder(newClient .admin().indices()) .setIndices(INDEX_NAME)

Parent / child relation

2014-04-10 Thread Janis Gruzis
Hello, im trying to create ElasticSearch mapping in Symfony 2 with help of FOSElasticaBundle. Well it probably is not relevant that I use Symfony 2, but relevant is the fact that Im trying to create mapping as similar to MySQL schema as I can. I stumbled upon situation, where I have foreign

Re: Using field results from main filter as input for 'has_child' filter (opening github issue?)

2014-04-10 Thread Binh Ly
I'd like to give this a try. Can you please post a recreation (maybe gist) of a bunch of sample parent and child documents and how you want the results returned exactly? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups elasticsearch group. To unsubscribe

Re: Equivalent of IndexRequestBuilder.setPercolate(....) in version 1.0

2014-04-10 Thread Eliezer Shindler
Thanks very much for confirming that.. On Thursday, 10 April 2014 14:37:07 UTC+1, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote: It has been deprecated, you cannot percolate while indexing in version 1. The new percolator API is documented here:

Re: OutOfMemoryError (Java heap space) during replication enabling on 90 indices

2014-04-10 Thread Jesse Davis
Also, the uncommented portions of our elasticsearch.yml: bootstrap.mlockall: true gateway.type: local gateway.recover_after_nodes: 4 gateway.recover_after_time: 5m gateway.expected_nodes: 4 indices.recovery.max_size_per_sec: 500mb discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes: 2 discovery.zen.ping.timeout:

Re: High CPU load on only one machine in a cluster of three

2014-04-10 Thread Huy Phan
Here's the stack trace of ES on the busy server:https://gist.github.com/huyphan/e543119a65861ab89e54 And here's on another low CPU load server: https://gist.github.com/huyphan/ee0c1a3bcd48f5b8ba28 On Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:37:15 UTC+8, Huy Phan wrote: Hi guys, I think I'm having a

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Mark Walkom
The best way to know is to test it yourself. It's very dependant on your hardware, your settings and the data that you are indexing. Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com web: www.campaignmonitor.com On 10 April 2014 23:49, Leslie

Re: S3 gateway issues

2014-04-10 Thread David Pilato
Which exact versions are you using? Plugin ES Note that gateways will be removed in 1.2 IIRC. -- David ;-) Twitter : @dadoonet / @elasticsearchfr / @scrutmydocs Le 10 avr. 2014 à 14:41, Ankur Goel ankrug...@gmail.com a écrit : hi, I am using s3 gateway in a application , elastic

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Jianjun Hu
Am I in the mailling list now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups elasticsearch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to elasticsearch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Jianjun Hu
Could you please give me some more detailed suggestions on how to test the elasticsearch? thanks. On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:13:49 AM UTC-4, Mark Walkom wrote: The best way to know is to test it yourself. It's very dependant on your hardware, your settings and the data that you are

Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark

2014-04-10 Thread Rafał Kuć
Title: Re: ElasticSearch Benchmark Hello! Depends on what you want to test. If you want to test indexing - start from scratch, see how many documents you can index with the clean Elasticsearch cluster, when you start to see slowdowns. Try seeing what the bottleneck is if any. In general, such

indexing issues

2014-04-10 Thread Morus Walter
Hi, I'm currently trying to build an elasticsearch index and experience some trouble. Indexing is based on database data and basically has three steps: a) index all database content b) index incremental changes that happened during step a (until almost all are done) c) permanently index

getting the max theoretical score for a search query

2014-04-10 Thread Guy Bowden
Hi there, is there any way to figure out a maximum theoretical score for a non text search query - something like: query: { query_string: { query: location:(1)^3 accommodation_comfort:(137 OR 193)^2 accommodation_facilities:(459 OR 403 OR 319),

Re: Using script filters in both the parent and the child filters fails

2014-04-10 Thread Jozsef Szalay
Update: I've tried to clear the cache, to refresh the index, closing and reopening the index, no joy. Then everything started to work automagically after a while (tens of minutes later). The index itself has a total of 620 docs. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, Jozsef Szalay

Does ElasticSearch match against all percolators by default

2014-04-10 Thread Eliezer Shindler
Hi, Currently I have used: *public* PercolateRequestBuilder *setPercolateQuery**(*QueryBuilder queryBuilder*)* *{* sourceBuilder*().*setQueryBuilder*(*queryBuilder*);* *return* *this**;* *}* With a 'match all' query builder as the paramater. Does ES do this by default

Java Node api: isStarted() isStopped() methods needed.

2014-04-10 Thread Doru Sular
Hi guys, I am using elasticsearch embedded in my webapplication. I really need the methods isStarted and isStopped on Node api. Currently I wait in my current thread for several seconds for starting/stopping, but I think that it will bring more code clarity to have this methods in the java

Flume-NG ElasticSearch Sink Backing up @ Midnight...

2014-04-10 Thread Matt
We use Flume 1.4 to pass logs into HDFS as well as ElasticSearch for storage. The pipeline looks roughly like this: Client to Server Flow... (local_app - local_host_flume_agent) AVRO/SSL (remote_flume_agent)... Agent Server Flow ... (inbound avro - FC1 - ElasticSearch) (inbound avro

Re: Flume-NG ElasticSearch Sink Backing up @ Midnight...

2014-04-10 Thread Matt
One additional thing.. we have two ES sinks actually pointing to the same cluster. The config looks more like this actually: (inbound avro - FC1 - ElasticSearch) (inbound avro - FC2 - S3/HDFS) (inbound avro_2 - FC3 - ElasticSearch) (inbound avro_2 - FC4 - S3/HDFS) On Thursday, April 10, 2014

Dashboarding using Kibana

2014-04-10 Thread Deepak Jha
Hi, I have a different requirement this time. I am trying to use Kibana to show certain values rather than their count. Ideally, I am looking for something like Pie Chart . Lets say my elasticsearch data has following tags {x:5, y:10, z:15,a:2}, so I want to create a pie chart showing

Re: Index deletion results in associated shards being orphaned and unassigned

2014-04-10 Thread Dallas Mahrt
I discovered the root cause. The current master was on a VM that was in a bad state. Sadly I could not get on to the host to debug the issue but it was still listening on 9200 and not accessible via ssh. I forced a master change by shutting down the node using the cluster admin api. Once the

Re: Flume-NG ElasticSearch Sink Backing up @ Midnight...

2014-04-10 Thread InquiringMind
Matt, I don't know if this helps, but we are seeing similar issues with Flume using log4j2 (not log4j v1 as used by ES). For tomcat-hosted servlets, flume failover works fine. But for non-tomcat applications (such as looping batch-mode applications and Netty-based servers with static main

Every shard showing up in /_cat/recovery

2014-04-10 Thread Nikolas Everett
Is it right that _all_ my shards are showing up in /_cat/recovery? It looks like every one of them is marked done. It is cool to be able to see the last replication, as well as the relatively huge cost of relocation while writing but it isn't what I expected reading the docs. Example:

Re: Issues with logstash sustained throughput

2014-04-10 Thread Ryan Bellows
and sent this to the wrong group. Sorry! On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:12:07 PM UTC-7, Ryan Bellows wrote: Hi All, Since upgrading to 1.4 (and ES 1.1) I've had no luck at all consuming logs, with events averaging about 10k a second, peak around 15k. What happens is Logstash processing

Retrieve specific fields

2014-04-10 Thread Mohit Anchlia
Is there a way to search and retrieve only specific fields using simple query string? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups elasticsearch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Every shard showing up in /_cat/recovery

2014-04-10 Thread Andrew Selden
Nik, Sorry for the confusion. The recovery API is meant to show the most recent recovery for each shard, as well as active recoveries. I'll see if we can improve the documentation around this. To see only active, on-going recoveries, use the active_only flag. For example: curl -XGET

[ANN] Elasticsearch experimental highlighter

2014-04-10 Thread Nikolas Everett
I've been working on a new highlighter on and off for a few weeks and I'd love for other folks to try it out: https://github.com/wikimedia/search-highlighter You should try it because: 1. Its pretty quick. 2. It supports many of the features of the other highlighters and lets you combine them

Re: Every shard showing up in /_cat/recovery

2014-04-10 Thread Nikolas Everett
I see now. Cool. Thanks. Nik On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Selden andrew.sel...@elasticsearch.com wrote: Nik, Sorry for the confusion. The recovery API is meant to show the most recent recovery for each shard, as well as active recoveries. I'll see if we can improve the

[Kibana] I'm unsure which field is causing the casting error, will someone please take a look?

2014-04-10 Thread Leila Hamon
I'm receving this error at the top of the page: Oops! ClassCastException[org.elasticsearch.index.fielddata.plain.PagedBytesIndexFieldData cannot be cast to org.elasticsearch.index.fielddata.IndexNumericFieldData] I have a mapping that I'm applying, it's a catch-all for iis, eventlog, and

Re: Scroll vs pagination using from/size

2014-04-10 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.comwrote: I am trying to understand the Pros and Cons of using scroll vs from/size for pagination? Scroll document advises against using it for real time users but it doesn't say why. I believe scrolls pin some state in memory

Re: Retrieve specific fields

2014-04-10 Thread Luiz Guilherme Pais dos Santos
Hi Mohit, It is possible, as shown here: http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/search-request-fields.html#search-request-fields On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.comwrote: Is there a way to search and retrieve only specific

Decoding the on-disk representation of an ES index

2014-04-10 Thread Ajith Ramanathan
Hey guys. I have two instances of what should be the same index (one of those datacenter redundancy things). I send the same updates to both DCs. However the two indices appear to be different (for example the same query returns a different set of results and has a different number of hits).

Re: Retrieve specific fields

2014-04-10 Thread Mohit Anchlia
I should be more explicit, is it possible when using q= type of query string? For eg: http://host/_search?q=field:hello; Is it possible to add a query string parameter to achieve that? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Luiz Guilherme Pais dos Santos luizgpsan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mohit, It

Re: sbuqueries and distinct counts.

2014-04-10 Thread Tim Uckun
I hate to bump myself but does anybody have any input on this at all? On Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:59:43 AM UTC+12, Tim Uckun wrote: I want to do something like this. select date_trunc('month', time_stamp), sum(distinct_count) from ( select date_trunc('week', time_stamp) as

Re: Scroll vs pagination using from/size

2014-04-10 Thread Mohit Anchlia
Thanks Adrien and Nikolas it's very helpful. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Adrien Grand adrien.gr...@elasticsearch.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Nikolas Everett nik9...@gmail.comwrote: This one is easy. Elasticsearch/lucene has to keep a min heap of all the documents you

ANN Elastisch 2.0.0-beta4 is released

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Klishin
Elastisch [1] is a small, feature complete Clojure client for ElasticSearch. Release notes: http://blog.clojurewerkz.org/blog/2014/04/11/elastisch-2-dot-0-0-beta4-is-released/ 1. http://clojureelasticsearch.info -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You

Re: 13mil documents and Elasticsearch status=red after server restart

2014-04-10 Thread Ivan Brusic
How many nodes do you have? How many replicas? After a quick glance, it looks like both stack overflow answers have the correct way to disable allocation. -- Ivan On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Madeleine mxmadal...@gmail.com wrote: I've also closed all indices, then started one only and

Re: Can ES compute result of aggregation's result

2014-04-10 Thread Adrien Grand
Hi, Unfortunately, this is not possible. But maybe you could do it on client side? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Zhao Chun buaa.zh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I have two sum when aggregation over, for example `click total num` and `search total num`. Is there some operator that can give

Re: Mapping Arrays - Weird Question

2014-04-10 Thread Adrien Grand
Hi, There is no need for a particular type for arrays[1]. Elasticsearch automatically detects arrays, so instead of declaring a field as an array, you need to declare what it contains. For example, assuming that variablesUsed is an array of strings, you could define it as variablesUsed : {type :

Re: Elasticsearch 1.1.0 - Optimize broken?

2014-04-10 Thread Adrien Grand
Thanks for reporting this, the behavior is definitely unexpected. I'll test _optimize on very large numbers of shards to see if I can reproduce the issue. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Elliott Bradshaw ebradsh...@gmail.comwrote: Adrien, Just an FYI, after resetting the cluster, things

Re: Elasticsearch phrase suggester

2014-04-10 Thread Adrien Grand
Hi, You would get better results with the phrase suggester by using an analyzer that has a shingle filter[1]. This filter will help Elasticsearch compute frequencies of pairs of terms. Without it, it falls back to single-term frequencies, so in your case it would only consider the frequencies of

Re: Force restriction of number of returned documents ES-wide (using filtered aliases?)

2014-04-10 Thread Adrien Grand
Hi, The only way to implement it today would be on client side. However, I think this would be an interesting feature given that while Elasticsearch is fast at retrieving the top hits, going deeper in the result set can use lots of resources (both CPU-wise and memory-wise). Can you open an issue

Re: getting the max theoretical score for a search query

2014-04-10 Thread Adrien Grand
Hi, Although it is generally not advised to return scores as percentages[1], in this particular case it would work given that you are only querying structured attributes and don't care about term frequencies and so on. For this problem, I would recommend using the function_score query[2], which

Re: Elasticsearch testing question

2014-04-10 Thread Nikolas Everett
Cool. Thanks! On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Adrien Grand adrien.gr...@elasticsearch.com wrote: Hey Nikolas, You can run the tests in parallel by specifying -Dtests.jvms=${number of tests to run concurrently} The default has been 1 for a very long time but Simon recently changed it so

Question about Scroll time

2014-04-10 Thread Robbie
Hi, Could anybody let me know the behavior of scroll when I am scanning through an index and the actions I take during this take more time than the scheduled scroll time? The documentation states that the scroll parameter is a time value parameter (for example: scroll=5m), indicating for how

Re: Can ES compute result of aggregation's result

2014-04-10 Thread Zhao Chun
Thanks for your reply, I will do it on client side. 在 2014年4月11日,上午7:29,Adrien Grand adrien.gr...@elasticsearch.com 写道: Hi, Unfortunately, this is not possible. But maybe you could do it on client side? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Zhao Chun buaa.zh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I

Re: Elasticsearch phrase suggester

2014-04-10 Thread Nik Everett
Set the min to 2 and max to either 2 or 3 and emit unigrams. That'll get it working. Also you probably want to set max errors to a number 1 because .5 means 50% which can get quite large if someone types 20 terms. That's been my experience with it. Nik Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10,

Re: Retrieve specific fields

2014-04-10 Thread Luiz Guilherme Pais dos Santos
curl -XGET http://localhost:9200/_search?fields=field1; curl -XGET http://localhost:9200/_search?fields=field1,field2; On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.comwrote: I should be more explicit, is it possible when using q= type of query string? For eg:

Re: Scroll vs pagination using from/size

2014-04-10 Thread Mohit Anchlia
I have one more follow up question, how can one know if there are more documents or not? This is to avoid one exta last call if possible. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Adrien and Nikolas it's very helpful. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM,

Re: java client or plugin for custom indexer and searcher

2014-04-10 Thread Srinivasan Ramaswamy
I am curious to hear some thoughts on this question. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:05:52 PM UTC-7, Srinivasan Ramaswamy wrote: Hi I am porting over an existing search system over to elastic search. We have a few custom requirements for search. I played around with ES RESTful APIs and

Scoring is not being computed when using wildcard in query_string query.

2014-04-10 Thread cyrilforce
Hi, I would to know is there anyway to enable scoring when using wildcard in query_sting query. Below is my query : { from: 0, size: 100, explain: true, track_scores: true, query: { query_string: { fields: [ DISPLAY_NAME^8,

How are missing values treated with new cardinality feature

2014-04-10 Thread H Sun
Hi, With the new cardinality feature introduced in 1.1.0. How are missing values treated? For example, in a data set with a field city, are all rows with no city value counted as 1? -thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups elasticsearch group.

Facets throwing exception in 1.0.1

2014-04-10 Thread sagarl
Hi, Following facets query code is working fine in 0.90.3 but it's throwing exception in 1.0.1. curl -XGET 'http://elasticsearch-0903.x.net:9200/index123-*/_search?pretty' -d '{ { facets: { terms: { terms: { field: events.actingUserName,

Re: Querying with Completion Suggesters with Java API

2014-04-10 Thread Dan Tuffery
I did a quick test, this works: *Create mapping* curl -XPUT 'http://localhost:9200/example/test/_mapping' -d '{ test: { properties: { my_suggest: { type: completion } } } }' *Index value* curl -XPUT 'http://localhost:9200/example/test/1/' -d '{ my_suggest:

Re: Facets throwing exception in 1.0.1

2014-04-10 Thread David Pilato
You should read in details the error. Although you did not paste all the error, I think your concern is not with facets but with queries. http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/_deprecations.html Field Query has been removed. HTH -- David ;-) Twitter : @dadoonet

Re: how scoring computed in wildcard and prefix query

2014-04-10 Thread Dan Tuffery
The scoring is computed using the Lucene scoring: https://lucene.apache.org/core/3_6_2/api/all/org/apache/lucene/search/Similarity.html the *idf* is the inverse document frequency, which gives a higher score to the rarer terms in the index. The term '*Hap*penings' appears four times in your

Re: Index and Indextype

2014-04-10 Thread Ivan Brusic
There should be no difference. Ultimately, both types are part of a the same Lucene index. The cache, posting format and idf are all tied to a field, so if the different types share the same field, it is the same data structure underneath. -- Ivan On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Mohit

Re: S3 gateway issues

2014-04-10 Thread Ankur Goel
Hi David , thanks for replying , I am using version number : 1.0.0, we have AWS plugin, we have removed S3 gateway for now , will switch to local but just wanted to make sure why we are getting this error, It will be really helpful to avoid any surprises in future. On Thursday, 10 April

Re: how scoring computed in wildcard and prefix query

2014-04-10 Thread chee hoo lum
Thanks Dan. How about queryWeight ? It only computed when using wildcard or prefix. Also when you say The term '*Hap*penings' appears four times in your index is regardless on which field right ? Thanks On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Dan Tuffery dan.tuff...@gmail.com wrote: The scoring is