Re: [Elecraft] Where to guy

2014-09-06 Thread Vic, K2VCO
I would like to thank everyone for their advice on guying my R8 antenna. I think I am going to use two sets of guys because, as several people pointed out, the angle will be somewhat steep and downward pressure will tend to make the antenna buckle. I will be using either nylon or dacron because

[Elecraft] SSB Net announcement

2014-09-06 Thread Phil Shepard
The weekly Elecraft SSB net is Sunday at 1800z on 14.3035 MHz. Hope to hear you. Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@ma

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] MFJ-1786 Antenna

2014-09-06 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski
Dave, I recently purchased a used 40-15 meter version (MFJ-1788). I live in a first floor condo and really have no place to permanently mount it, so I use it on either a short 3 foot stand or extend it to 10 feet with my car stabilizing the base. I've had this antenna for about 6 months n

[Elecraft] [K3] MFJ-1786 Antenna

2014-09-06 Thread Dr John H Farmer
Hi Dave, I've used an MFJ 1786 for some years now and my experience has been positive. It's not a beam at 100ft, but over many hundreds of QSOs, the reports I've received and sent compare favorably with a wire doublet up at 40 feet. There's a learning curve associated with tuning it, but once

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] MFJ-1786 Antenna

2014-09-06 Thread Fred Jensen
No experience with the MFJ but I do have an AlexLoop and it's pretty versatile, sets up fast, is fairly immune to things around ... and ground or the lack of it. It's definitely QRP, I'm not sure I'd want to fool around with a mag loop at 100W. Narrow band [really] on 40 and 30 but tunes easi

[Elecraft] Psychoacoustics (Was: K3 and Preamp)

2014-09-06 Thread Alan
On 09/06/2014 04:26 PM, Jim Brown wrote: ... From Psychoacoustics (the science of how the human ear-brain combination works), we know that we process sound in narrow chunks of bandwidth called "critical bands." The ear tends to process sounds within that band together, so when the filter gets

[Elecraft] [K3] MFJ-1786 Antenna

2014-09-06 Thread David Guernsey via Elecraft
Does anyone have any experience using a MFJ-1786 with a K3? I live in a 2nd floor condo in a 5 story brick building. Considering a magnetic loop on my balcony to get back up on HF. 73 de Dave KJ6CBS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,9/6/2014 2:28 PM, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote: I believe that whether one observes monotonic improvement in ability to decipher the intelligence carried in a very weak signal as one reduces receiver BW will be a function of_how_ the BW is narrowed in the various electronic circuits and/

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread Fred Jensen
On 9/6/2014 2:28 PM, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote: On Sep 6, 2014, at 2:34 17PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: I received a couple of off-list comments that might be of interest to those who are following this thread. One was that narrowing the BW also improves the S/N. Maybe. Maybe not. Or, maybe u

[Elecraft] Where to guy

2014-09-06 Thread Howard Benham
Unless your guy lines are rocket proof it probably won't make much difference. :-) Seriously though, near the top and in the middle work well for me in high wind condition. Howard KG5AON Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Ho

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bud, I think a lot has to do with the 'material between the ears'. Some have developed the ability to hear signals that to my ears are buried in the noise. Those chasing Low Band DX are examples of folks with that ability. Some report using a wide bandwidth while others report good results

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
On Sep 6, 2014, at 2:34 17PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > I received a couple of off-list comments that might be of interest to > those who are following this thread. One was that narrowing the BW also > improves the S/N. Maybe. Maybe not. Or, maybe up to a point. I believe that whether one obse

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
There is also a converse on preamp use that needs to be stated IMHO - and mostly pertains to bands below 15 meters. If there is a significant (3 to 6 dB) increase in noise heard in the receiver when the antenna is connected (tuned where there are no signals present) then the receiver gain is s

[Elecraft] KPA500 attenutes TS2000 receive.

2014-09-06 Thread Jerry
Thanks for the help in this solution. That was exactly the problem. I have disconnected my Ameritron Model ARB-704 from the KPA500 and substituted it with a homemade connector using the remote connector pins 2 & 4. Before this TS-2000 was pushed into duty as the replacement for the ailing K3, it wa

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread Edward R Cole
Maybe most of you already know this, but... It has been accepted that the K3 receiver needs a little help of a preamp on 10m and 6m (especially 6m). That is why Elecraft came out with the PR6 and later the PR6-10 preamps. At lower frequencies the level of sky noise is much higher which over

Re: [Elecraft] Experiment: how much PL tone deviation is required to > reliably key repeaters? (Wayne Burdick)

2014-09-06 Thread Dale Putnam
The "normal" or standardized modulation of PL tones is +/- 600 hetz... set and left alone...The "normal" or standardized modulation used by repeaters at a minimum is usually considered to be reliable is 20% or +/- 120 hertz. Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > Hi all,

[Elecraft] K3 and Preamp

2014-09-06 Thread Dauer, Edward
No argument with the theory here, though my personal experience is not consistent with the earlier observation that a preamp won¹t do much if the noise level drops perceptibly when the antenna is disconnected. On my K3 on 10M the noise level drops when no antenna is connected (by 10dB? Maybe not)

[Elecraft] CTCSS tone deviation required to reliably key repeaters?

2014-09-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
Wayne, others ... As a career (FCC licensed) two-way radio technician, I can confidently state that the "usual" ... there's no FCC Part 97 rule ... transmitter deviation for CTCSS tones is 400 - 600 Hz. Not all repeater's receivers roll off the tones, and few radios ... any? ... made for the ham

Re: [Elecraft] Experiment: how much PL tone deviation is required to reliably key repeaters?

2014-09-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,9/6/2014 9:36 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: There seems to be some debate about how much FM deviation is required for PL tones used to activate repeaters. There's a wide range of deviation values in use by transmitters, and various "standard" recommendations. The question is how much is neede

Re: [Elecraft] Experiment: how much PL tone deviation is required to reliably key repeaters?

2014-09-06 Thread Fred Jensen
On 9/6/2014 9:36 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, There seems to be some debate about how much FM deviation is required for PL tones used to activate repeaters. There's a wide range of deviation values in use by transmitters, and various "standard" recommendations. The question is how much is ne

Re: [Elecraft] Experiment: how much PL tone deviation is required to reliably key repeaters?

2014-09-06 Thread Fred Townsend
Wayne when you find out the answer to your question I hope you will publish it to the community. Seems like way low below the standard works because the repeaters are low pass filtering out the speech going into the decoder. 73 Fred, AE6QL -Original Message- >From: Wayne Burdick >Sent

[Elecraft] FTDX5000

2014-09-06 Thread Mike Harris
Given that the FTDX5000 CW keying bandwidth has been discussed on this list, I hope no one will be offended to learn that Yaesu has apparently released new firmware which has by some method addressed this issue. Successful or otherwise I have no idea, just the messenger. Regards, Mike VP8NO _

[Elecraft] Experiment: how much PL tone deviation is required to reliably key repeaters?

2014-09-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi all, There seems to be some debate about how much FM deviation is required for PL tones used to activate repeaters. There's a wide range of deviation values in use by transmitters, and various "standard" recommendations. The question is how much is needed for reliable operation in the real w

Re: [Elecraft] Ts-2000 and the KPA

2014-09-06 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
You should be keying the KPA with the REMOTE connector on the TS-2000 where REMOTE Pin 2 and Pin 4 are the contacts that short together to key the amp. I normally also ground pin 2, and use Pin 4 as the amp-key output. There is also a solid-state output (Pin 7 and ground), but this has the opp

Re: [Elecraft] Where to guy?

2014-09-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Be careful with your guying. Even if the antenna is dead center, the guy points will not be more than 2.1 m from the base. With guy points that close any tension in the guys will be converted almost entirely into downward pressure on the antenna (buckling forces). You will need multiple guys -

Re: [Elecraft] Where to guy?

2014-09-06 Thread W2BLC
Needs to be guyed in the middle (just below a joint) and the top (just below the actual top). Use a hose clamp to hold a metal ring or two in place - which will become your guying points. Use something like Kevlar rope (1/8"from Radio Works), which is nonconducting and very strong. I no longer

Re: [Elecraft] Where to guy?

2014-09-06 Thread John Tipka
Vic, My R8 is ground-mounted on 21 foot length of SS40 high yield strength 50,000 PSI steel pipe used for high security fencing. The pipe is buried three feet deep in concrete. It is guyed at the 17 foot point of the base pipe with 1/8" wire rope, and between the BC-BD joint of the R8 just be

Re: [Elecraft] Ts-2000 and the KPA

2014-09-06 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Could you have the KPA500 key line pulled low when receiving? That would activate its T/R switch (even during receive). Try temporarily removing the PTT key line RCA connector from the back of the KPA500 to see if the signal improves. If it does, try to figure out why it's shorted during receive.

Re: [Elecraft] Where to guy?

2014-09-06 Thread Mike Reublin
Mine is ground mounted on a 10' mast. I used 2 sets of guys, 1 at the top of the mast, the other about 17' up the R8. 73, Mike NF4L On Sep 6, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Vic, K2VCO wrote: > I am putting up a Cushcraft R8 antenna on a flat roof that is about 3m x 3m > square. The antenna is sitting on a

[Elecraft] Ts-2000 and the KPA

2014-09-06 Thread Jerry
Greetings: My K3 is on its way back to Elecraft for some needed repairs. So I have placed my TS2000 into temporary duty. I have hooked it up to the KPA500 and the KAT500 and it works very well in the transmitting mode. The problem arises when I am in receive. If the KPA500 is in the STBY mod

[Elecraft] Where to guy?

2014-09-06 Thread Vic, K2VCO
I am putting up a Cushcraft R8 antenna on a flat roof that is about 3m x 3m square. The antenna is sitting on a 1m mast; the antenna itself is about 9m tall. It will have four guy ropes to the corners of the roof. What is a good height at which to attach them to the antenna? Are there rules