[Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Jim Murray
Hello All, Progress temporarily halted by (who would ever guess) a tilt bail. Somehow I've gone from great design and instructions to something that reminds me of putting toys together at Xmas Eve. Is this for real? Can anyone tell me the secret. How many people does it take to pull on the

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Mark Bayern
IMO, the bail is the most difficult piece of the assembly. I used longer screws while assembling the thing and then changed them out, carefully!, one at a time to screws of the correct length. There were some great discussions on the forum a few years ago about the tilt bail. Lots of different

RE: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Darwin, Keith
Oh, yes, I remember. That blasted bail! We can buy pre-wound toroids - someone needs to sell a pre-mounted bail! I think I put my bail in a vise and tried to squeeze it down a bit. I also used some of the longer screws to get things started then swapped them out once it was together. - Keith

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Tom Hammond
Jim: The way I've successfully done it, and with NO(!) effort, is to install the feet/bail using much longer (say 1) screws... TIGHTEN things down and then, one at a time, replace the long screws with the proper ones. Using the longer screws makes it very easy to get everything in place

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Install the first foot and tighten it, and then either: 1) Install the second foot using 'builder provided' long screws - after things are lined up and tightened with the long screws, remove the long ones one at a time and replace them with the proper screws. 2) Use a clamp to compress

RE: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Fred (FL)
VISE - that is the trick. Just force some (SOME) of the spring width out of the metal item. It works fine, if you just squeeze it down a small amount - do it in stages, as it would be hard to make it wider again in a Vise. Fred, N3CSY

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred, I believe you are advocating bending a permanent reduction in the bail width with the vise (if not, I have misunderstood you). I do NOT recommend doing that since it results in a loose fitting bail which will be 'floppy'. Using a vise or a clamp to squeeze the bail temporarily while

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Dale Boresz
One of the most clever recommendations that I remember from those discussions a few years ago was to wrap a few turns of wire from one bail end to another and insert a short rod of some type and twist it tourniquet style to slowly draw the ends inward until they are drawn together enough to

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Gary D Krause
Hi Jim, I just put mine together last weekend. There is quite a bit of tension with the bail. In fact, my aluminum plate is bowed slightly from trying to get the other end of the bail fastened. It flattened when I attached it to the K2. Gary, N7HTS On Thu, 24 May 2007 20:25:58 -0700

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread Fred (FL)
To take a lead from my former ME associates back at Kodak's CAD group - I think the Elecraft K2 bail, as designed, has too much K and is a tad too long. Decreasing length, ever so little in a vise - makes the whole job and final installation work nicely. I think the idea of temporarily

Re: [Elecraft] #6107 - First Snag

2007-05-25 Thread w6jd
-- Original message -- From: Dale Boresz [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the most clever recommendations that I remember from those discussions a few years ago was to wrap a few turns of wire from one bail end to another and insert a short rod of some type and twist it