Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-11 Thread Mark Petiford
This really looks like a data latency of a stale data issue, as I discussed in an earlier posting and Don expanded on in his post.  To me, this is a minor curiosity, but I am sure that there will be a few who will say their radio is worthless because of it.    MarkKE6BB

[Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Gary Hawkins
Firstly thanks to everyone for your input on potential causes of SWR reading instability with my KX3. Since there were so many possibilities (antenna, heating, radio, etc.) I knew I needed to go back to basics and initially test the radio with a dummy load on the bench. Well, I managed to

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread VaibhaV Sharma
I have noticed the same thing on my KX3 as well. Can you redo the 1-2-1-2 test with FM? You did the SSB test only with 1-2-1-2 but the FM test with XMIT full power and no variation in power with speech. -- VaibhaV On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Gary Hawkins g...@hawkins-zhu.com wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Phil Wheeler
I never watch SWR in SSB, but CMP and ALC. 73, Phil W7OX On 4/10/14, 11:51 AM, VaibhaV Sharma wrote: I have noticed the same thing on my KX3 as well. Can you redo the 1-2-1-2 test with FM? You did the SSB test only with 1-2-1-2 but the FM test with XMIT full power and no variation in power

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Mark Petiford
Re:  Can you redo the 1-2-1-2 test with FM? I just duplicated the original test with my KX3 (FW 1.94/1.28) and got the same results.  I repeated the 1-2-1-2 voice test and the SWR remained stable as it did in AM as well.  It looks almost like the KX3 is calculating the SWR using a good current 

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Mark Petiford
The second sentence, first paragraph should have read:   I repeated the 1-2-1-2 voice test ON FM and the SWR remained stable as it did in AM as well. Mark KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread VaibhaV Sharma
Thanks for repeating the tests. I started paying close attention to the SWR meter after I got the Alex Loop. The antenna has a very narrow window where the SWR is low (receive noise high). I try not to use the ATU with the loop. Even touching the loop capacitor dial changes its behavior and it is

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Nr4c
I suspect that VSWR tests should be done with constant carrier CW, and not with a fluctuating signal as SSB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Apr 10, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Mark Petiford rv6am...@yahoo.com wrote: Re: Can you redo the 1-2-1-2 test with FM? I just duplicated the original

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Fred Jensen
With magnetic loops becoming more popular, it probably bears commenting: The AlexLoop [and clones] is a resonant transformer and *must* be at resonance to work. This means No ATU's, ever. At resonance, the coupling between primary and secondary is very high and mine works very well. Off

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mark's analysis was 'right on'. Due to the varying nature of the SSB RF waveform and the workings of digital sampling, it is impossible for the forward power and reverse power to be sampled at exactly the same instant (one of the limitations of digital sampling intervals). So, if the reverse

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SWR Reading Instability Follow-up

2014-04-10 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
My only question here is WHY? I think Mark is on the right track. It could also be that between syllables, and during quieter times in speech we're simply not seeing enough RF to get off the bottom bits of the A/D converter. Either way, looking at a wildly varying transmitter output and