Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-07 Thread Jim Vohland
Indash hr radio would be nice in a Tesla or any other car. Maybe someone should design a rig that would fit in dash. Just like buying after market stereo! Sure would be nice for install purposes. Maybe a K3I (for in dash). Sent from my iPad > On Oct 7, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Barry

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-07 Thread Barry
Wes, You left out this part: *Taxpayers currently subsidize the oil industry by as much as $4.8 billion a year*, with about half of that going to the big five oil companies—ExxonMobil, Shell, Chevron, BP, and ConocoPhillips—which get an average tax break of $3.34 on every barrel of domestic crude

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys - This thread has been closed. Please no political arguments like this on the reflector. There are many other places on the net for that. :-) 73, Eric Moderator /elecraft.com/ On 10/6/2015 9:13 PM, Scott Manthe wrote: This is quickly becoming unbearable. If you guys want to have a blue

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Lee Ormiston
Drifting back to the technicalities of flowing electrons: Nine electric cars operated on the streets of Paris, France between 1835 and 1839. The biggest problem with them was the inefficiency of the electric batteries - likely a variation of Volta cells. The biggest problem with current

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Be sure and pen a little thank you note to the taxpayers that help you out with your "free" fuel :-) http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html#page=1 On 10/6/2015 7:26 PM, Barry wrote: Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Scott Manthe
This is quickly becoming unbearable. If you guys want to have a blue state vs. red state debate, do it somewhere else. Taxpayer pay for lots of things that not everyone is happy about, so it's probably best if this thread is dialed back now. Scott N9AA On 10/6/15 11:02 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread mfsj
d.com> Cc: Barry <w...@comcast.net>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the future an

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread David Gilbert
Sorry ... my bad. It did sound kind of over-the-top so I should have gotten a clue. My mistake. Dave AB7E On 10/6/2015 11:15 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Dave, It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Mel Farrer
da...@cis-broadband.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S Dave, It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. Wayne ("

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Dave, It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert wrote: > > That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
From a practical perspective, the "battery with onboard generator" of the Chevrolet Volt is far more practical (and has been around for a very long time as the diesel-electric locomotive). It a real shame that the Volt is out of the price range of ordinary consumers as charge at home with

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread mfsj
t.net> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas milea

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :) Wayne On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj wrote: >

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread jim
..@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM To: mfsj Cc: Barry; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars powe

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Thread closed due to the politically oriented posting below. This is too far OT. As per thread guidelines, please make posts with political comments elsewhere. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 10/6/2015 11:17 AM, jim wrote: And the other side: Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Al Gulseth
---Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM > To: mfsj > Cc: Barry; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Mode

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread riese-k3djc
my prius c is fine,, thank you Bob K3DJC On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:15:49 -0700 Wayne Burdick writes: > Dave, > > It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge > supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. > > Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR > >

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread mfsj
Original message From: Al Gulseth <wb5...@centurytel.net> Date: 10/06/2015 3:12 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S First, I've been intrigued by electric powered vehicles for a long time. I came very close to buying

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Barry
My apologies for starting this thread. I had no idea it would take such a perverse turn from a simple question. Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-VHF-radio-in-Tesla-Model-S-tp7608742p7608767.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Walter Underwood
Attempting to answer the original question, the Model S roof is mostly aluminum, so mag mounts don’t work. Some people have used the roof rack for a mount. Others use trunk lip mounts. The cigarette lighter outlet has a 15A fuse, which might not be enough for some mobile rigs. This Google

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread bsusb
Tesla? No,No,No!! Its got to be a Charger like the Dukes used to drive. V-8 hemi. If it gets more than 10 miles to the gallon, it is underpowered. If you don't put more than 5000 miles a year on the thing, you can easily afford the fuel cost. You like electrics? Go to any golf course.

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
My Prius is great, too :-) Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Oct 6, 2015, at 13:03, wrote: > > my prius c is fine,, thank you > > Bob K3DJC > __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
I have 2M and 1.2GHz radios in my Model S. They work fine with no detectable RFI in either direction. I have a no-holes installation, which is sub-optimal but I couldn't bear the thought of drilling into this expensive but totally awesome vehicle. 73, /Rick N6XI On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread David Gilbert
That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other. Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Barry
Wes (N7WS) wrote > It's okay. We know you just wanted to brag about having a Tesla:-) Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told everyone how I drove 1500 miles and "fuel" was free :-) Wayne - In re-reading my original post and your response, I think you

[Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Johnny Siu
.  Also antenna installation is another area to be thought about. Any ideas? 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Rick Tavan N6XI <rta...@gmail.com> 收件人︰ Barry <w...@comcast.net> 副本(CC)︰ Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 傳送日期︰ 2015年10月7日 (週三) 5:30 AM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] OT:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Gary K9GS
Hi Rick, So..did you get the "Ludicrous Speed Option"?? On 10/6/2015 4:30 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: I have 2M and 1.2GHz radios in my Model S. They work fine with no detectable RFI in either direction. I have a no-holes installation, which is sub-optimal but I couldn't bear the thought of

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wes
The last, and I do mean last, Chrysler product I owned was a '79 Roadrunner, bought new. What a POS. I don't believe time has improved a thing. Now I drive an Aussie car, a Pontiac G8 GT. Wish it had more hp tho, 360 is marginal. But what's this 5000 mile stuff? I'm putting a new set of

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wes
I would actually consider a Volt if I could get my GM retiree discount. (no chance) Furthermore I live in a "red state". GM is limiting sales of the '16 models to "blue" states. On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > From a practical perspective, the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wes
It's okay. We know you just wanted to brag about having a Tesla:-) On Oct 6, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Barry wrote: > My apologies for starting this thread. I had no idea it would take such a > perverse turn from a simple question. > > Barry W2UP > > > > -- > View this message in

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,10/6/2015 4:16 PM, Wes wrote: I would actually consider a Volt if I could get my GM retiree discount. (no chance) W6JTI lives in the "lost coast" area of NorCal and drives a Volt. he loves it. Several of my friends drive a Prius and love them. I encouraged my wife to buy one, and

Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the

[Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

2015-10-06 Thread Barry
I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S, hence the post. When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it. Now I'm having second thoughts. Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a radio? Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign