Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
Sorry, guys, the KX3's internal ATU isn't going to be accessible for patching through an external amp. It will safely handle 12 W (max KX3 power on most bands), but 20 W is pushing it. I routinely work the world with 10 W SSB and marginal antennas, hence the KX3's 10-W nominal power-output t

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-02 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
Edward KL7UW wrote: > > As an alternative, might you consider a small amplifier? TAPR is > offering a 20w HF/6m amplifier called the "Pennywhistle". > http://www.tapr.org/kits_pw.html > drives with 1/4w and runs on 12vdc. > An external amp in a clamp-on case that fits on the bottom might be a

[Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Erik Basilier
The particular brand of Lithium Ferro Phosphate battery that I got has the brand name A123. That company talks about "nanophosphate" which presumably means that some kind of nanotechnology is used, which may lead to higher load current capacity. In any case, the Buddipole website and the specificat

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
K7TV wrote: > > The battery can provide very high output current for a short time, I > believe enough to power a 100 W transmitter briefly. > Yes, LiFePO4 has a high power density but not as high energy density as LiPoly or the typical Li-Ion (laptop) batteries. It was chosen for the One Lapt

[Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Erik Basilier
Ummm. correct me if I am wrong, but it looks to me as if Leigh is referring to Lithium Ferro Phosphate batteries (also known as Lithium Iron Phosphate), while Jack is thinking Lithium Polymer. Not at all the same thing. If I remember correctly, Lithium Polymer was involved in some published inciden

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2011-06-01 Thread Jack Chomley
> > Consider that IF you are taking your station on commercial aircraft, in some > countries the carriage of LiPo batteries is very restricted, particularly if > the pack is not enclosed within the device they power. > I carry a VRSLA battery that is approved and so marked to meet the IATA A

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
I'd suggest LiFePO4 batteries, as they can source the current necessary for the transmitter easily, and are safer in operation than Lithium Polymer. They can be safely charged on a portable solar panel if you disconnect once the voltage reaches 14.4v, and that's pretty much what the SLA charge con

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread W5CEM
Must disagree with the limits of 10w on SSB! I have never mastered CW, thus 90% of my operating, which is ALL QRP is on fone. Yea, maybe there are times a bit more power could help, but the speech processor should take care of that. More like after all the effort and calling, and waiting, etc, w

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Buddy Brannan
My guess about the batteries is ease of field replacement, ability to use standard AA cells instead of rechargeable if needed, and number of discharge cycles. Li-ion batteries only have about 500 charge/discharge cycles. Anyway, while LiPo or Li-Ion batteries may be lighter weight, I'm supposing

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Ignacy
Lyle hit it head on. All QRP radios that really need punch lack don't have RF speech processor or an equalizer. With speech processor, KX3 can sound like a 4 times stronger radio. With poor mic that Kx3 can equalize, even more than that. My guestimate 10W of KX3 may approach readability of IC-7000

[Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Edward R. Cole
ng systems (primarily ocean-going). http://www.kl7uw.com/Case%20open.jpg If folks want it? I can build it. 73, Ed - KL7UW -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:47:52 -0600 From: "Hall, Nathon" Subject: [Elecraft] Still lac

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-06-01 Thread Edward R. Cole
: 20 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:07:44 -0700 (PDT) From: AA1QG Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ok, you win, I?ll order a KX3 when it arrives! I have quite a few 5-10w portable radios gathering dust unless I plan

[Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-31 Thread Hall, Nathon
I'm so excited about the KX3! Finally, there's a successor to my beloved IC-703. AA1QG makes a very good point about SSB. The KX3 is clearly targeted squarely at CW and PSK operators. I seldom have any problems being heard with 10W when operating CW; even managing to break through DX pileups with

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
Note that the KX3 will have an effective SSB clipper/compressor/processor to give an average of at least 6 dB of "talk power" without significant impairment of the speech quality, making 10W seem like 25 or more to the receiving station. 73, Lyle KK7P > ... > > Please consider a KX3 Heavy Duty

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread Grant Youngman
K2, K3??? WTF. Sent from my iPhone . > > Please consider a KX3 Heavy Duty version, with a lithium battery and higher > power output (25W) in a bigger box. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecra

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread Mel Farrer
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 1:07:44 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking Ok, you win, I´ll order a KX3 when it arrives! I have quite a few 5-10w portable radios gathering dust unless I plan to operate CW. My trusty K2 has the 100W PA, which I usually run at 25-50 wat

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread AA1QG
Ok, you win, I´ll order a KX3 when it arrives! I have quite a few 5-10w portable radios gathering dust unless I plan to operate CW. My trusty K2 has the 100W PA, which I usually run at 25-50 watts using a 14AH battery and an K1 tuner (which tackles 50W well in spite of being rated lower). The

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread Dave KK7SS
Wayne, biased?? Naah! never! >> So it's really an apples/oranges comparison, in my heavily-biased >> opinion :) >> Wayne Burdick >> Mon, 30 May 2011 10:47:47 -0700 -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Ho

Re: [Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Terje, The KX3 is a completely different radio from the Vertex 1210. It is much smaller, lighter, and has far less current drain. It can even be used hand-held. There's simply no room for a 20-W PA and/or a large battery. The 1210 is a channelized "man pack" radio, which definitely has i

[Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-30 Thread AA1QG
As a portable user of the K2 and Vertex 1210, I was thrilled to hear about the new KX3. After reading the preliminary specs however, I think I´ll stick to my existing radios. Why? - 10 W is insufficient power for portable SSB operation on the lower bands, at least in Europe. 20-25 W as the 1210