Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Personal attacks and critiques of the type below are in violation of Elecraft list policy. Please cease posts of this type immediately. Also note that this thread has been officially, and forcefully, closed. Eric Moderator elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 11, 2017, at 6:15 AM, Dave Belville

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
'Gentlemen', This thread was closed yesterday - in several posts by the moderator (me). Further posts on this topic will incur the wrath of the moderator. Take it off list - now. 73, Eric Moderator elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 10, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Jim Brown

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-11 Thread Dave Belville
Wow Andy, what a selfish response. Suppose no one in the US cared about working people in England or couldn't because we could not put up an antenna. Obviously you wouldn't care but there are a lot of people in England that belong to clubs in the US and actively participate in events. I worked a

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-11 Thread Brian D
Andy McMullin wrote: > I really thought this thread was closed. > > Nobody outside the USA cares about your internal politicking so please > just give it a rest! Let’s get back to Elecraft and leave the American > Politics Stuff somewhere else. Please. It is something that

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-11 Thread W B McCarty
I read the list offline, as I suppose many others do. I've carefully re-read the received messages in the thread, several times, and I find no message from a moderator, or anyone else, instructing that the thread be closed. That said, I readily take Andy at his word that such is the case and I

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-11 Thread Andy McMullin
I really thought this thread was closed. Nobody outside the USA cares about your internal politicking so please just give it a rest! Let’s get back to Elecraft and leave the American Politics Stuff somewhere else. Please. Andy > On 11 Aug 2017, at 06:53, W B McCarty

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread W B McCarty
With due respect for those who disagree, it's not about us. I consider that the need for a well-crafted Parity Act is NOT ours but a need of our sons and daughters and THEIR sons and daughters, few of whom are parties to the contracts to which onerous and often unconstitutionally vague and broad

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Mark Bayern
I guess I get to be the guy posting to a closed thread. ouch! >>"FWIW, I DO consider this issue VITAL to anyone who lives in a restricted >>housing development, which includes a very high percentage of US hams. All of those US hams decided on their own to purchase property in the restricted

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/10/2017 10:37 AM, G4GNX wrote: I was under the impression that this thread was CLOSED. Please respect the list owner's wishes. Note that I posted 6 hours before it was closed. And I posted again before getting to the email that closed it. FWIW, I DO consider this issue VITAL to anyone

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread G4GNX
I was under the impression that this thread was CLOSED. Please respect the list owner's wishes. 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:32 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act Apparently you

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/9/2017 11:12 PM, Erwin Haynes wrote: Having said that -- is this a "all or none" game? Could this bill be a footstep into future legislation, e.g. with some/all of the the valid issues that K1VR brings up to be addressed? Apparently you did not read K1VR's analysis. He offered several

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Thread Closed. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act - Thread Closed

2017-08-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Thread Closed 73, Eric Moderator elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Agreed. Thread closed. In the interest of keeping list volume reasonable, it is lit policy that general amateur radio policy and political discussions are not appropriate for the reflector. There are a multitude of more appropriate places where these can take place. Please take this topic off

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Dave Cole
I must agree! 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/10/2017 05:33 AM, Gmail wrote: I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread John Langdon
Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gmail - George Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act A differing view: Having benefited greatly by th

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Dave Belville
I am sorry guys, I have to disagree with you. From the ARRL website, "The measure will, for the first time, guarantee all radio amateurs living in deed-restricted communities governed by a homeowner's association (HOA) or subject to any private land use regulations, the right to erect and maintain

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Bill
Just the few? Potential lack of antennas effects all in the USA - other nations may well follow. I cannot imagine how antenna issues would not be of interest on this reflector. If you do not feel concerned - hit the delete. Now back to my cave before I offend someone's tender feelings. --

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Andy McMullin
I agree completely. It’s of limited link to Elecraft and no interest at all to most of the world, just to the few that live in parts of the USA. Regards Andy, G8TQH > On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:33, Gmail wrote: > > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for

[Elecraft] Amateur radio parity act

2017-08-10 Thread Gmail
I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Gmail - George
A differing view: Having benefited greatly by the Telecommunications Act of 1996 in my former professional life, I doubt that the HOA, POA or COA (X owners associations) have been asleep at the wheel in dealing with antenna issues since then! Senator Nelsen's defeat of this bill last year for

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Bill
Excellent read that was written by an expert. A true example of giving with the big words (chest banging sound bytes etc.) and rhetoric - while taking away in the fine print. Written by contractual charlatans selling snake oil. I can see challenges lingering in the courts until the effected

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Erwin Haynes via Elecraft
lecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act Note that K1VR goes through this with a fine toothed comb, showing both its inaccuracies and exposing serious problems with the Bill itself. Although I have no legal training beyond the English language, I find K1VR's analysis compelling. 73, Jim K9YC On 8

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-10 Thread Jim Brown
Note that K1VR goes through this with a fine toothed comb, showing both its inaccuracies and exposing serious problems with the Bill itself. Although I have no legal training beyond the English language, I find K1VR's analysis compelling. 73, Jim K9YC On 8/9/2017 10:21 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-09 Thread Dave Cole
Probably should add this to keep both sides in the picture. http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/The%20Amateur%20Radio%20Parity%20Act%20FAQ.pdf 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/09/2017 07:31 PM, Terry wrote: How many of you have seen this on current antenna bills

Re: [Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/9/2017 7:31 PM, Terry wrote: How many of you have seen this on current antenna bills before Congress? I have. The author, K1VR, is probably the best, most experienced and most respected attorney specializing in legal issues

[Elecraft] Amateur Radio Parity Act

2017-08-09 Thread Terry
How many of you have seen this on current antenna bills before Congress? Terry, KQ5U __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: