Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules [ END of thread]

2009-09-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks, Let's end this thread discussing ESSB and the FCC rules. 73, Eric Elecraft List Moderator __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Lyle Johnson
>> I have been on the air long enough to remember when there were serious >> arguments for banishing all "phone" from the HF bands as a huge >> spectrum-waster. Compared to CW and even most other digital modes, it >> certainly is! >> > Though if you want a fair comparison, I suppose you should mult

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > I have been on the air long enough to remember when there were serious > arguments for banishing all "phone" from the HF bands as a huge > spectrum-waster. Compared to CW and even most other digital modes, it > certainly is! > Though if you want a fair comparison, I

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, and from the information I have, H3 and J3 (among others) are both considered "phone". H3 is full carrier SSB, so there's no lower limit to the audio frequency allowed, only a 3 kHz upper limit. What's not defined in Part 97 is what the 3 kHz means - 3 dB down from peak, 6 dB down? And no slop

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread David Gilbert
Not according to the FCC Dave AB7E Brett Howard wrote: > Read my message again. ESSB is a mode! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
f Brett Howard > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:12 PM > To: 'David Gilbert'; 'elecraft' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules > > > Read my message again. ESSB is a mode! I'm saying that > people who claim ESSB is wasteful then w

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Brett Howard
nt: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:38 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules Brett, reread part (a) of the FCC rules below. The maximum bandwidth requirement is applied to each individual emission type (mode). The FCC acknowledges the right to use voice modes like SSB and even

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread David Gilbert
Brett, reread part (a) of the FCC rules below. The maximum bandwidth requirement is applied to each individual emission type (mode). The FCC acknowledges the right to use voice modes like SSB and even AM ... it just says you shouldn't abuse the bandwidth when you do so. Dave AB7E Brett H

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Brett Howard
n Payne Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules N2DTS: "I don't understand why some people like to limit other peoplesactivity, or choices." Excerpted from FCC rules Part 97: §97.307 Emission standards. (a) No

Re: [Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
And the FCC regulations are vague, i.e. "...than necessary...", "...good amateur practice...", "...adjacent frequencies..." None of these are quantifiable. What constitutes "compliance" is a matter of personal opinion. Compare these requirements to those controlling emissions outside of the amat

[Elecraft] ESSB and the rules

2009-09-28 Thread John Payne
N2DTS: "I don't understand why some people like to limit other peoplesactivity, or choices." Excerpted from FCC rules Part 97: §97.307 Emission standards. (a) No amateur station transmission shall occupy more bandwidth than necessary for the information rate and emission type being transmitte