Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Mark Forsyth
Jón Denbow'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element? Compresdion at 25 seems high compared to my setup. I use 17 on mine which gives 10 db according to the display. How many db is 25 with your setup i am curious as i have the same mic. Sent on the new

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Carl Jón Denbow
Dave, et al: Thanks for all the fine comments and feedback I've received both on the message board and by direct email message. I do have the MIC BIAS on' and the MIC BTN off. Another person suggested that I adjust the TX EQ, which I have done, basically boosting 2.4 KHz and above by 4db

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Carl Jón Denbow
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Carl Jón Denbow Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 11:03 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element? I have a Heil Proset with the ic element. I get fairly lack luster audio reports. What would be the best replacement

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Carl, It's a common mistake to believe that the more expensive Heil should sound better than less expensive alternatives. I think you will be very pleasantly surprised with on-air comparisons to the CM500. 73, Mike K2MK Carl Jón Denbow wrote Dave, et al: Thanks for all the fine comments

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Michael Walker
As most know, this has been well discussed in must about every radio forum out there. Mics are a personal preference and there are 2 camps in tailoring of mic audio. Those that want to ensure their audio gets through when conditions aren't the best (Let's just call it the Heil camp based on his

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Carl, Take note that Heil does not offer an adapter to use its microphones with the KX3. Need I say more? 73, Don W3FPR On 12/28/2014 5:40 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote: Dave, et al: Thanks for all the fine comments and feedback I've received both on the message board and by direct email

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Walter Underwood
Well heck, Elecraft has only sold eight or nine thousand KX3’s. Heil should wait until it is a sure thing. That is just good business. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ On Dec 28, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Carl, Take note that Heil does not

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Michael Walker
That is because you don't need one. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740174%20Proset%20for%20the%20KX3%20Rev%20A.pdf Mike va3mw On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Carl, Take note that Heil does not offer an adapter to use its microphones with the KX3.

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,12/28/2014 2:40 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote: Heil headset is, obviously, a much more expensive piece of equipment. Same as we say in the pro audio world about Bose -- Better sound through marketing. It's ALL HYPE. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,12/28/2014 3:47 PM, Michael Walker wrote: (Let's just call it the Heil camp based on his studies of what the Ear hears thanks to the Bell Labs). That science is quite solid, but Bob Heil is hardly the only guy who knows about it-- we've been doing that with pro sound systems for nearly

[Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-28 Thread István Szabó
Heil Proset is great with K3 and KX3 both. Different settings but each sounds excellent. You may not like Proset on portable, it is large for that, use a small, light computer headset with electret element if you prefer VOX. I use a small Panasonic that requires more mic gain than than Proset.

[Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-27 Thread dyarnes
Carl, Are you sure you have the the menus set correctly? For the Heil Pro Set (“IC” model) MIC BIAS should be “on” and MIC BTN should be “off”. I have one of those Heil Pro Set (IC) models, but haven’t tried it, or my Yamaha CM500, on the KX3. I use the MH3. The manual suggests that you

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-27 Thread Kd8nnu
/divdivFrom: Mark Forsyth vk3...@bigpond.com /divdivDate:12/27/2014 1:26 AM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: 'Carl Jón Denbow' c...@n8vz.com,elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element? /divdiv /divG'day Carl, If you get aggressive with TX EQ you can make the Heil iC element

[Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Carl Jón Denbow
I have a Heil Proset with the ic element. I get fairly lack luster audio reports. What would be the best replacement element to use? I assume that it's a fairly simple operation to replace the ic element with another one. It looks like there are just two phillips screws holding on the

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Phil Wheeler
What rig are you using, Carl? Someone may be able to suggest a way to get better audio with the element you have. Phil W7OX On 12/26/14 4:02 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote: I have a Heil Proset with the ic element. I get fairly lack luster audio reports. What would be the best replacement

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Phil Wheeler
Ah, I missed KX3 in the title. Phil W7OX On 12/26/14 4:14 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: What rig are you using, Carl? Someone may be able to suggest a way to get better audio with the element you have. Phil W7OX On 12/26/14 4:02 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote: I have a Heil Proset with the ic

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Carl Jón Denbow
Thanks, Phil. These look like exactly what I needed. I'll check this out tomorrow and let you know how it works. 73 de Carl, N8VZ Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: Yeah, reading the manual should always be a last resort, Carl :-) I

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Vic Rosenthal
If what they are telling you is that it sounds tinny, that is the HC4. It is supposed to be good for 'penetrating' pileups, but doesn't sound very good. Vic K2VCO /4X6GP On Dec 27, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Carl Jón Denbow c...@n8vz.com wrote: Thanks, Phil. These look like exactly what I needed.

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Jim Rhodes
Before you replace the element take some time with a trusted local who knows you voice and adjust the transmit equalizer. Makes all the difference in the world. On Dec 26, 2014 11:30 PM, Vic Rosenthal k2vco@gmail.com wrote: If what they are telling you is that it sounds tinny, that is the

Re: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element?

2014-12-26 Thread Mark Forsyth
] On Behalf Of Carl Jón Denbow Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 11:03 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Heil Proset KX3 Element? I have a Heil Proset with the ic element. I get fairly lack luster audio reports. What would be the best replacement element to use? I assume that it's